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 Post subject: Ball Saddle Stem
PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 9:27 pm 
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Could someone give a quick summary on the process of turning a Ball Saddle Stem?

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 Post subject: Re: Ball Saddle Stem
PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 7:10 am 
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Cut it rough with etch a sketch, finish shape with file, sand.
Or use skew by hand to shape then sand.

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Still trying to get that two-handed action down. Thanks.

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Alternatively, you can grind the profile of the ball on a lathe tool. Sharpening the inside curve is a bit of a challenge, though. There are usually several paths to achieve the same result. Some are easier than others, depending on your tools at hand and skills with those tools. I have no skill whatsoever with the etch-a-sketch method on the lathe.

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I'm better with hand tools. More instinctual. Working with two hands I'd like learning to play the guitar for me. I'm more linearly oriented. I appreciate the advice Premal and Jeremiah.

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If you work better by hand then do it with chisels. Etch a sketch takes a lot of practice.

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Thanks Chris.

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I would suggest that you do it etch a sketch style. Like the other guys said, it takes practice. But it is a skill that is well worth developing in my opinion.

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Point taken Sam.

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I've tried and use the etch a sketch style when turning bulldogs and the like but, when turning a stem I prefer to turn it as if it was on a wood lathe and place a piece of square stock in the tool post and use it as a tool rest and use gouges to shape fancy stems. Although one has to be careful if not familiar with wood turning this method because it can hurt ya. But, I see it as a much easier way till one learns the etch a sketch method.
Sometimes I wish I had a wood lathe but, I also see the advantages of a metal lathe.

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One factor on the etch-a-sketch method is your lathe. If you have a 7x20, good luck. The tiny wheels make it really hard. The bigger the handwheels, the easier it is to etch-a-sketch. On my 12” it’s pretty easy to get close to what I want, then I just refine it with sand paper.

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 Post subject: Re: Ball Saddle Stem
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Tyler wrote:
One factor on the etch-a-sketch method is your lathe. If you have a 7x20, good luck. The tiny wheels make it really hard. The bigger the handwheels, the easier it is to etch-a-sketch. On my 12” it’s pretty easy to get close to what I want, then I just refine it with sand paper.


Yeah, I have an old antique Craftsman/Dunlap 6x20 but, I find it fairly easy to do bulldogs with the Etch-A-Sketch method on it but, that's where it ends.
Maybe someday when I'm rich and famous I'll be able to afford a real lathe. :lol:
I'm not going to hold my breath though. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Ball Saddle Stem
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Tyler wrote:
One factor on the etch-a-sketch method is your lathe. If you have a 7x20, good luck. The tiny wheels make it really hard. The bigger the handwheels, the easier it is to etch-a-sketch. On my 12” it’s pretty easy to get close to what I want, then I just refine it with sand paper.

Tyler, I have an Enco 9x20. I do find it a little difficult to be precise...over turning, having to factor in tolerances. I also have to keep tightening the nobs so they don't slip when the come in contact with the material. Perhaps I should use some loctite? I have some basic wood turning skills, bowls, spindles, boxes. While I know I need practice, practice practice, there are pieces that I am able to get to a certain point on and then am just out of my skill level. At times I just want to finish a pipe. Here is one piece I'm working on. There as a big pit in the bottom of the stem-shank junction. This would be pipe #3 completed for me. I messed up two stems and am going to try another. (False stem in place). I appreciate everyone's advice. Happy 4th all. ImageImageImage

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 Post subject: Re: Ball Saddle Stem
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 Post subject: Re: Ball Saddle Stem
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LatakiaLover wrote:
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Thanks Latakia. I think it's just the way I'm holding the false stem. The tenon is smaller than the mortise. But I'll certainly double-check my alignment.

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 Post subject: Re: Ball Saddle Stem
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Ah. I was wondering what you might have done to end up with the mortise and shank on a different axis. :shock: (Shudder)

Never mind. :D

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