My solution to shaping smaller stems

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My solution to shaping smaller stems

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I've been having a heck of a time shaping smaller sized stems because they are a pain to hold onto as you run a file or rasp across it, especially bigger files that don't leave much room to hold onto, so I came up with a simple solution to my problem, and figured I'd offer it here in case anyone else wanted to borrow my idea. I know I'm not the first to person to use some kind of platform for shaping stems, but this is what I came up with. I just took a small block of wood and clamped it to the workbench. Instead of holding the stem still with my hand, I just push the button end into the block hard enough that it stays steady. If you look closely, I also made a small step on the edge of the block, that way the stem doesn't get pushed in the direction that I'm cutting with the file. If anyone else has any other techniques, I'd be interested in hearing what you all have come up with.

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Make a handle.... Like on tools... Drill a mortis in it and use it to hold onto... The 1 by 4 can still be used As a brace... Your going to give yourself hand cramps

I have about 10 I use all made from either bamboo for 4mm tenons and rungs out of my neighbors baby crib when the threw it out..

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Make a handle with a mortise in it that you can put the stem on. That'll give you something to hold so you don't strain your hands and wrists. You can also put the handle in a vise to free up both hands for sanding or filing.
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Very good advice fellas. I will find/make a handle post haste.
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So I won't throw any names out but the first time I saw the handle with mortise in it. It was in a utube video from a maker I respect a lot. It looked like they were ebonite a nice big diameter. Maybe 19mm or bigger I thought that's what I'll do. I'll probably cheap out for now and use 2x4. In another video I saw another well respected guy had cutouts on the edge of his bench that the button fit into. Also a great idea. These two inspired me and I ordered delrin and ebonite from Steve. Hopefully I'll be able to say I've sworn off prefab stems. Baby steps.


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It's interesting to see all the neat ideas that come out of pipe makers shops. Since the minute I finished my first hand cut stem, I knew that if I ever used a prefab again, it would be rare. I don't mind the extra work because of the significant difference in the quality of the stem, and once you get used to the process, it actually goes much faster than the first few times you do it.
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The easiest and cheapest ready-to-go stem handle I know of is a cheapie drill chuck.

Just remember to put a couple turns of masking tape on the tenon first.

http://www.amazon.com/Jacobs-SoftGrip-S ... rill+chuck
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I like that idea LL. That way you don't need a whole bunch of handles for each size.
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A drill chuck will work and I have used that method but I have found when you are really bearing down and filing hard the stem can flex or even snap because it is only support by the tenon. If you make a handle which has a nice large flat face just like your shank then it is supported at the tenon and the face of the stem and is much more stable, plus the handle will prevent you damaging the face or edge.

This is one of the reasons that I standardised my tenon sizes so then I can have a whole range of different handles for a shaping and buffing, some allowing maximum protection and hand comfort and others allowing precision sanding and buffing.
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LatakiaLover wrote:The easiest and cheapest ready-to-go stem handle I know of is a cheapie drill chuck.

Just remember to put a couple turns of masking tape on the tenon first.

http://www.amazon.com/Jacobs-SoftGrip-S ... rill+chuck
Cool idea, but I might be a little worried about scratching the tenon.

I just bought some 1" dowel rod, cut it to the length I wanted, drilled a mortise, and voila! Stem handle. :)
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caskwith wrote:...but I have found when you are really bearing down and filing hard...
Bearing down? Filing hard? How dreadful. Sounds exhausting. :lol:

I vaguely recall doing something like that long ago, in a galaxy far, far away. Don't exactly miss it, though.

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I have a similar method. wrap the tenon with a few wraps of hockey shin guard tape (it doesnt tear or leave dents and residue like masking or other types of tape) and chuck the tenon into a small 3 jaw or drill chuck. I cut the slot last so I use the live center of my lathe to support the button end of the stem while shaping. My wood lathe indexes at 12 points so i can lock the spindle and whatever angle im currently working. As george said in his stem finishing video, it is sometimes easier to move the work than the tool so I will rotate the spindle of the lathe back and forth with my left hand while filing the stem with my right to get the arc near the button.
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d.huber wrote: Cool idea, but I might be a little worried about scratching the tenon.
Masking tape is amazingly tough when compressed. Two wraps = no worries.
I just bought some 1" dowel rod, cut it to the length I wanted, drilled a mortise, and voila! Stem handle. :)
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fuchi_jeg wrote:I have a similar method. wrap the tenon with a few wraps of hockey shin guard tape (it doesnt tear or leave dents and residue like masking or other types of tape)
Thanks for the tip. I've already placed an order:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_kk_1?rh= ... 1393281471
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sorry george. You want the clear poly stuff. not the friction tape. its too gummy.
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fuchi_jeg wrote:sorry george. You want the clear poly stuff. not the friction tape. its too gummy.
No worries. That's the flavor I got:

http://www.amazon.com/Renfrew-Scapa-Tap ... ockey+tape
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LatakiaLover wrote: Bearing down? Filing hard? How dreadful. Sounds exhausting. :lol:

I vaguely recall doing something like that long ago, in a galaxy far, far away. Don't exactly miss it, though.

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Ccoolee wrote: Great George!
You have no idea. Think variable width, variable grit, variable speed moto-rasp. :D

Kinda like having one of these for your driveway if you live in Syracuse, NY:

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So why not just shape the stem when it's in the real mortise on the pipe?

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