pipemakersforum.com

The original forum for pipe makers on the web
It is currently Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:49 am

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 117 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6

Shape or feature for PITH 2017
Poll ended at Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:31 pm
Rustication 13%  13%  [ 2 ]
Calabash 13%  13%  [ 2 ]
Oval Shank 27%  27%  [ 4 ]
Bamboo 13%  13%  [ 2 ]
Teardrop Shank with cap 27%  27%  [ 4 ]
Pencil Shank 7%  7%  [ 1 ]
Total votes : 15
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: PITH 2017!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:07 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:56 pm
Posts: 29
Location: NC
PeskyPrussian wrote:
Whenever I complete a pipe (at least at this point) I perform as thorough a self-critique as possible, recording every little aesthetic or functional detail that I can improve upon the next time. My initial impression would be to provide this self critique along with the PITH pipe when we perform the swaps, as some people do when they post their stuff to the gallery. I feel like providing a self critique on an online forum helps to orient reviewers to what the maker does or doesn't see so they know what level of critique to provide.

However, someone brought up a good point on the facebook side of the forum that perhaps providing a self critique in a situation like this is not conducive to an independent review. It might color the impression or cast the discussion in a direction that the critic wouldn't otherwise go. Anyone have any opinions regarding this or any other considerations about the pipe swapping?

Thanks!

As the guy who posted said self-critique, I thought I'd chime in here. I suspect that to a certain degree, it probably makes a bit of a difference with where you are in terms of your pipe making. In my case, I'm still very new to all this (though I'd made 15 kit-pipe lollypop warclubs dating back as early as 1999, I learned very little until I bit the bullet and started making them from scratch and indeed making the billiard in question), so for me, part of the self-critique is that I want to communicate instances in which I know where a line should have been but don't have the skills to execute it effectively, as opposed to issues with the pipe that I'm not seeing. Not to beat a dead horse but I'm very much still in the "training my eyes as much as my hands" stage - so in providing that self-critique, my goal is exactly as you said - trying to spare reviewers the trouble of pointing out the obvious stuff I do see (though of course I always appreciate specifics about how to handle those flaws in future efforts), while also helping me learn where a line should be or how something should have been executed or things I need to pay more attention to in the future.

I think that the type/shape of the pipe probably comes into play as well - once one's technical skills improve enough that one is able to put the lines exactly where they were intended to go at the outset, you can make a bit of an "I meant to do that" defense (I know that's getting into touchy territory) - which is why the "make 1000 billiards" advice gets repeated so often - in that sense, there's very little wiggle room or personal say in where a line should or should not be, so the critique can be mostly on execution of a mostly-agreed-upon goal. One thing that I've really loved in reading critiques on this forum is that people do tend to adjust their nitpickiness to the level of the pipe, and even pipes that look like borderline masterpieces to me generally receive constructive criticism to some degree - it's just the specificity of that criticism that changes with the level of the pipe. And again in my case, I'm still very much learning where the target is that I'm aiming for, so heavier critique helps.

Now, all that being said - I'm hoping to feel like I'm at a level to participate in next year's PITH (likely depending on shape/feature and whether it's "a little outside my comfort zone" or "completely new thing I'm not ready for yet"). When I do, I'll likely write and include as detailed and exhaustive self-critique as I can, but perhaps I'll include it with the pipe with the intentions of having it read after the recipient arrives at his or her own conclusions. My job is pretty heavily graphic-design based, so I'm pretty used to pouring my heart and soul into a creative endeavor only to have it get picked apart (and subsequently shat upon, in some cases :lol: ), and in my experience it seems to sting a lot less if I've already ripped most of that bandaid off myself beforehand.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: PITH 2017!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:21 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:03 pm
Posts: 1119
Location: Columbus, Ohio, USA
Don't hold back! Let's see some pics

_________________
Premal Chheda
http://www.chhedapipes.com
http://www.smokershaven.com

Before the battle begins in a game of chess.
"I am going to defeat you with my left hand!" - Arvind Shamji Chheda


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: PITH 2017!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:07 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:19 am
Posts: 145
Location: Ohio, USA
I don't want anyone to think I've forgotten, or decided to bail. I have two in process, but won't be able to work on them till next weekend. I will however get one done, just probably not until the last minute.

_________________
Nicholas Burnsworth
Boulder & Briar


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: PITH 2017!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 12:52 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:15 am
Posts: 88
Location: Atlanta, GA
Well, after blowing through 5 blocks I'm close to finishing Pipe #3. This will be my PITH entry. It's not a traditional oval shank, but oval-ish (hope that's ok). For what it's worth, this is my first freehand shaped/drilled pipe. Completed pipes have been few and far between. Certainly learned a lot in this process and looking forward to eventually pulling off a traditional oval shank. ImageImageImageImage

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk

_________________
"I have some friends, some honest friends, and honest friends are few; My pipe of briar, my open fire, A book that's not too new." ~ Robert W. Service


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: PITH 2017!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 5:17 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:23 pm
Posts: 46
I wasn't going to post pics of mine because I am really nervous about it, but I guess that's the whole point isn't it.

Attachment:
35845373552_5ca631abaf_o.jpg [116.36 KiB]
Downloaded 20 times


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: PITH 2017!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:43 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:03 pm
Posts: 1119
Location: Columbus, Ohio, USA
pmbattles wrote:
I wasn't going to post pics of mine because I am really nervous about it, but I guess that's the whole point isn't it.

Attachment:
35845373552_5ca631abaf_o.jpg


Nice!

_________________
Premal Chheda
http://www.chhedapipes.com
http://www.smokershaven.com

Before the battle begins in a game of chess.
"I am going to defeat you with my left hand!" - Arvind Shamji Chheda


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: PITH 2017!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:31 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:23 pm
Posts: 46
Thank you Mr. Chheda! I hope who it goes to feels the same way.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: PITH 2017!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:52 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Jun 01, 2017 11:22 am
Posts: 29
Have we decided on a completion date for this?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: PITH 2017!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:12 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:15 am
Posts: 88
Location: Atlanta, GA
pmbattles wrote:
I wasn't going to post pics of mine because I am really nervous about it, but I guess that's the whole point isn't it.

Attachment:
35845373552_5ca631abaf_o.jpg

Wow! That's a nice pipe.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk

_________________
"I have some friends, some honest friends, and honest friends are few; My pipe of briar, my open fire, A book that's not too new." ~ Robert W. Service


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: PITH 2017!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:51 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:23 pm
Posts: 46
Thanks BriarShrink!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: PITH 2017!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:19 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 15, 2015 6:59 pm
Posts: 16
Location: Detroit, MI
Here are a few photos of my entry:
By no means perfect, but probably my best overall piece yet. I tried a lot of new things on this one.

http://imgur.com/a/OeZ8l

(please forgive the cat hair on the background, its a constant in my apartment, I promise not to include any along with the pipe when it ships)

_________________
Adam Bybee


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: PITH 2017!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:28 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Jun 01, 2017 11:22 am
Posts: 29
Nice pipes!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: PITH 2017!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 1:17 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:04 pm
Posts: 4
Location: Lebanon, PA
Sorry everyone...I'm in the process of moving the location of my shop, and though I thought it would be done by now, it's not. Necessary pipe making equipment is not set up at the moment, so I'm unable to get any pipes done in the immediate future. Sorry to pull out at this late date, but I'll be in for next year.

Jesse

_________________
If I were to preach a sermon about Balaam, it would be titled, "The man who was rebuked by his own ass."


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: PITH 2017!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 1:51 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:03 pm
Posts: 1119
Location: Columbus, Ohio, USA
PeskyPrussian wrote:
Here are a few photos of my entry:
By no means perfect, but probably my best overall piece yet. I tried a lot of new things on this one.

http://imgur.com/a/OeZ8l

(please forgive the cat hair on the background, its a constant in my apartment, I promise not to include any along with the pipe when it ships)


Form and finish is excellent. Professional level

_________________
Premal Chheda
http://www.chhedapipes.com
http://www.smokershaven.com

Before the battle begins in a game of chess.
"I am going to defeat you with my left hand!" - Arvind Shamji Chheda


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: PITH 2017!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:29 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 15, 2015 6:59 pm
Posts: 16
Location: Detroit, MI
WOW, that's my day made.

Thank you for saying so, Premal

_________________
Adam Bybee


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: PITH 2017!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:52 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:44 pm
Posts: 637
Location: Port Huron, MI
Robert Vacher has been added. Seeing some nice pipes so far!

_________________
#shellaclivesmatter

Emmanuel Atilano
http://www.atilanopipes.com/


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: PITH 2017!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:49 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:36 pm
Posts: 361
Location: Colorado Springs, Co
Image

First black laid down...


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 117 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group