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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:07 pm 
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Checked search but can't find anything specifically.

I'm using a dark blue stain and when I apply it I'm having issues.when I make a pass and then make another pass next to the stain I just put down, where the two passes meet I get a dark streak. I thinks its from the first pass flashing the da off before the stain next to it gets put on. So its acting like a double coat at the junction. What can I do to mitigate this? Or can I do something before buffing that knocks these darker areas down so the color looks uniform?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:16 pm 
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If this is the under-coat, soak the sucker with stain. Then you can sand and/or buff.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:48 pm 
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Or wash the whole pipe with sealer as soon as you've stained, to even it out. Depends on what you are trying to accomplish.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:16 pm 
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Well. I'm sanding to 600 grit. Applying the stain, the shellac with da coat, the red trip, white dia, and finally carnuba buff.

I'm not familiar with doing it any other way at the moment.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 3:02 pm 
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clickklick wrote:
Well. I'm sanding to 600 grit. Applying the stain, the shellac with da coat, the red trip, white dia, and finally carnuba buff.

I'm not familiar with doing it any other way at the moment.

Search finishing techniques.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:29 pm 
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baweaverpipes wrote:
clickklick wrote:
Well. I'm sanding to 600 grit. Applying the stain, the shellac with da coat, the red trip, white dia, and finally carnuba buff.

I'm not familiar with doing it any other way at the moment.

Search finishing techniques.


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You need to do some research and experimentation on finishing. Have you tested to see if stain comes off with heat, moisture, friction, etc..?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:04 pm 
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So I based most of my actions from here, viewtopic.php?f=35&t=10401
For this pipe, I don't want contrast so I'm not doing an undercoat. So I stain it with blue, after 220, sand all scratches and all stain goes away except for on the grain. Then stain again, sand with 320. Again with 400. Then after 400 I don't stain and just sand to 600. I then apply my final stain of blue which I was understanding as the topcoat. I then seal it with a shellac da mix before buffing.

What am I missing? Your responses make me think I'm missing something obvious. As for the pipes I've made, they are durable, color darkening but not fading. It does not rub off although I haven't tried it with wet handss. The wax dulls after a while but the stain will not come off on my fingers. But I've only made 19 pipes so far so maybe I've interpreted the information wrong and have been doing it incorrectly this whole time.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 5:37 pm 
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clickklick wrote:
So I based most of my actions from here, viewtopic.php?f=35&t=10401
For this pipe, I don't want contrast so I'm not doing an undercoat. So I stain it with blue, after 220, sand all scratches and all stain goes away except for on the grain. Then stain again, sand with 320. Again with 400. Then after 400 I don't stain and just sand to 600. I then apply my final stain of blue which I was understanding as the topcoat. I then seal it with a shellac da mix before buffing.

What am I missing? Your responses make me think I'm missing something obvious. As for the pipes I've made, they are durable, color darkening but not fading. It does not rub off although I haven't tried it with wet handss. The wax dulls after a while but the stain will not come off on my fingers. But I've only made 19 pipes so far so maybe I've interpreted the information wrong and have been doing it incorrectly this whole time.


Only couple things. Put first color on after either 320 or 400. Then sand up to either 600, 800, or 1000. Then top color, then shellac. Allow time to set. Then buff.

For testing. Smoke the crap out of the pipe, then wipe with white cloth or paper towel while it is warm.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:47 pm 
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Thanks. I tried applying it with a brush instead if a pipe cleaner or q tip. I think blue is just not a nice color unless you go dark dark. I don't have this issue with lighter colors. I'll keep working on my technique.

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