Dust collection Help

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Pillichody
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Dust collection Help

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I need to set up a inexpensive dust collection system. I am thinking of using a shop vac for now. I don't know what to use at the buffers and the sanding disks. And a home made slack belt sander. Please would any one post some pictures of those areas for collection. So I can figure out what I need or make. Also are there any shop vacs that are not to loud? Thank you.
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In my opinion there is no such thing as a quiet shop vac. Mounted outside of the work area is an option to reduce noise. One thing about shop vacs, fine dust clogs the filter. If using a shop vac add a cyclone fixture so that it will catch most of the chips. But also remember to clean the filter daily if not more often.
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I use a shop vac with a cyclone type catcher in the line and a bag in the vac which catches particles that are missed in the cyclone. I have found that plastic cat litter cans make pretty fair collectors at the sanding wheels, and the necks accept the standard 2 1/2” hose connectors.
I apologize, my images are not posting properly.
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The cyclone dust collector is on the left.
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I used 2 litter containers riveted and taped together. The 2 1/2” connector is a good friction fit in the neck of the container. I notice that George Dibos uses corrugated cardboard to form his dust hoods.
The shop vacs are noisy and putting the vacuum in another room is a good idea, but I’m not there yet. This works for now.
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Thank you Dogcatcher and Doc. I appreciate the help. I will have to live with the noise. My shop is really small. Outside the work area is the outside.
Doc would you mind showing a picture of how the plastic jug is situated up to the buffer or sander?
I have heard that some also put a box over the top of the sanding disk. I would think it could get in the way. Does anyone have a picture of that set up also?
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Thank Doc. That picture came through as I was typing. Thank you. This helps a lot. I am able to obtain kitty litter jugs also. I need to get a vac and some hoses. Then I think I am ready to take off the mask.
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I used one of these https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000H ... UTF8&psc=1
to provide power to my sander and dust collector. The switches on both machines were left in the on position. When I turned on the power junction, it activated both the sander and dust collector.

I did have one that left the dust collection system run an extra 15 seconds, but old age finally killed it, and I never replaced it. Should have, but it has been a year since I have been in the shop.
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Thank you Dogcatcher. That will be a great addition. And helpful. I have not been in my shop for about 6 weeks. I had a virus that had me down for a while and then minor surgery. Now I'm trying to get my very small shop in a better workable order.
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DocAitch wrote:I use a shop vac with a cyclone type catcher in the line and a bag in the vac which catches particles that are missed in the cyclone. I have found that plastic cat litter cans make pretty fair collectors at the sanding wheels, and the necks accept the standard 2 1/2” hose connectors.
I apologize, my images are not posting properly.
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The cyclone dust collector is on the left.
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I used 2 litter containers riveted and taped together. The 2 1/2” connector is a good friction fit in the neck of the container. I notice that George Dibos uses corrugated cardboard to form his dust hoods.
The shop vacs are noisy and putting the vacuum in another room is a good idea, but I’m not there yet. This works for now.
DocAitch
Doc, here you go. Looks like you put each image link inside of another image link, Inception style.
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Doc, what is the HP of your vac? I am looking for a smaller size for the area I want to put it. But I want as much HP that I can get. I am looking at a Ridged 9Gal 4.5hp. Should that work?
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Buy shop-vac, not rigid. Rigid don't take the filter bags, and you need those. Need.

Best shop vac for the money /size is the little bumble-bee one for contractors. Runs about 100 bucks around here.

https://www.amazon.ca/Shop-Vac-5-5-Peak ... B01MXZGGH0
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Thank you Sasquatch. I like the size of that. But I already got the Rigid. This one also takes bags. I had a low budget $49. I also picked up a cyclone that works with a 5gal bucket. I am still looking for good ideas of what to put at the sanders and buffers. I do like what Doc is doing with the kitty litter jug. I will do that. I would like to see what others are doing also. (home made ideas)
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The 9 gal should work fine. They definitely need to be checked regularly, even with the cyclone and the bag, the filters will pick up material.
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