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First Pipe progress. Some Nuts & Bolts issues. Help please.

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:52 am
by BriarShrink
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I've overworked this kit pipe and things are all out of whack. I'm trying to figure out a way to save it or make it more of a learning experience. I didn't like the stem, so basically tore it up...but lost all my cues for appropriate alignment.


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I started to make a pencil shank...but got carried away.

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I thought about spinning the stem 180 degrees and trying to make the rest of the shank as thin... hopefully align better.

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Any suggestions, help, criticisms are much appreciated. Thanks in advance. Tom

Re: First Pipe progress. Some Nuts & Bolts issues. Help ple

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:40 pm
by Alden
I don't see much you can do to straighten things out here. I mean, you could keep filing on the shank to get the lines better, but then all you're doing is taking everything down way too far.
Really, the pipe is done, it is what it is, and there's not enough meat left on the bone to change it much.
Others may have other opinions. I say you smoke this as it is, or throw it in a box somewhere. The lesson to learn isn't how to fix this one, but how to not do the same to the next one.

Re: First Pipe progress. Some Nuts & Bolts issues. Help ple

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:09 pm
by BriarShrink
Thanks Alden...wasn't sure where to expend my energy.

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Re: First Pipe progress. Some Nuts & Bolts issues. Help ple

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:27 pm
by calsbeek
if you're super determined to try to correct it, cut the shank off an inch or so down.
(I'm assuming you don't have a lathe). Jam a drill bit into the airway and then chuck the other end of the bit in a drill press. Keeping things all together, put the stummel in a vice so everything is lined up. Remove the bit. Reface the newly cut shank.

If you're me, at this point you would post a pick of your ugly ass pipe and move on to the next one.

TIAFUYS

Re: First Pipe progress. Some Nuts & Bolts issues. Help ple

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:52 pm
by PremalChheda
calsbeek wrote:if you're super determined to try to correct it, cut the shank off an inch or so down.
(I'm assuming you don't have a lathe). Jam a drill bit into the airway and then chuck the other end of the bit in a drill press. Keeping things all together, put the stummel in a vice so everything is lined up. Remove the bit. Reface the newly cut shank.

If you're me, at this point you would post a pick of your ugly ass pipe and move on to the next one.

TIAFUYS
Try It And Find Urself Yugoslavian Slut

Re: First Pipe progress. Some Nuts & Bolts issues. Help ple

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:55 pm
by PremalChheda
This may be a good opportunity to learn how to use a file to keep a straight shank. You just need to turn a flat file diagonally and cut the entire length of the shank and stem. If you can clamp the pipe in a vice using a dowel rod or adjustable reamer, it will make it easier.

Re: First Pipe progress. Some Nuts & Bolts issues. Help ple

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:01 pm
by calsbeek
PremalChheda wrote: Try It And Find Urself Yugoslavian Slut

Try it and F- up your stummel

:)

Re: First Pipe progress. Some Nuts & Bolts issues. Help ple

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:37 pm
by BriarShrink
Thanks guys. I do have a lathe...but decided to start with sanding belts. I need a better chuck...or just remove two of the jaws?

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Re: First Pipe progress. Some Nuts & Bolts issues. Help ple

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 12:23 am
by Ratimus
I just had something akin to a religious conversion having recently acquired a set of Steve (smokingdawg)'s aluminum jaws. Mind-blowingly good. Get yourself a set of those you'll wonder where they've been all your life.

Re: First Pipe progress. Some Nuts & Bolts issues. Help ple

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 12:38 am
by BriarShrink
Thanks Ratimus...on the shop list.

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Re: First Pipe progress. Some Nuts & Bolts issues. Help ple

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:17 am
by DocAitch
I would , as you suggest, turn the stem 180degrees and carefully reduce the stem and shank by hand. Premal's method with the file is the general direction I would go, although my first impulse would be to use a mechanical sander. Depends on how careful you are.
I personally would also reduce the thickness of the front of the bowl., I'm a bit of a symmetry freak.
Remember that anything you do which takes you n the right direction is going to add to your skills for the next one. You will definitely remember to mark your lines the next time.
If you throw it in a box it will not contribute anything to your growth, just take up space. If you manage to save it, you will be rewarded. Even if you don't save it, you will learn something.
I have a couple of pipes that are eggshell thin in the shank area and that I know will shatter when dropped, but each is its own reward each time I smoke itDocAitch