Shank bands and rings

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I am not sure if this is the best category for this question but the others didn't seem to fit either

I am looking around for some decorative bands for the shank, I specifically need a silver band with a celtic design on it, but I cant seem to find any decent bands or rings anywhere other the pme and they really don't have what I am lookign for any suggestions?

can I use regular finger rings?

Thanks in advance for any help or laughs from the usual smart arsed remarks :mrgreen:
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Yep.
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One thing to keep in mind, some rings are flat on the inside, some rings have a bulge that tapers out from the middle. If the ring is perfectly flat inside you can turn a tenon on the shank and slide it on. If it has that bulge/bevel you'd have to sandwich the ring in between two pieces.
Don't know if that makes any sense, but if you end up with one that is beveled on the inside diameter, you will see what I mean.
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Alden are you suggesting that jewelry manufacturers are not taking seriously the needs of pipe-makers?
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Sasquatch wrote:Alden are you suggesting that jewelry manufacturers are not taking seriously the needs of pipe-makers?
Yes, I have written my Congressman on the matter.
I would suggest you write your Regal Wizardman, or however it works up there in Canada.
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Even the Chinese have neglected us.I've looked a lot.The tubing guys with nichol and alloys and stainless are the best option.Then you work it to where you want it.some chinese jewelers acted interested to accommodate, but wanted a large order to be placed.
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Yes, rings work fine if you can find them small enough. Size 4-8 (in ring sizes) are the most applicable for most pipes.
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Toe rings, if you can find what you're looking for.
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Alden wrote:One thing to keep in mind, some rings are flat on the inside, some rings have a bulge that tapers out from the middle. If the ring is perfectly flat inside you can turn a tenon on the shank and slide it on. If it has that bulge/bevel you'd have to sandwich the ring in between two pieces.
Don't know if that makes any sense, but if you end up with one that is beveled on the inside diameter, you will see what I mean.
You mean a rolled edge? instead of squared off for flush fits? yeah I would imagine as a finger ring a rolled edge would feel more comfortable then a squared off edge
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I'm not really a jewelry kind of guy. I own one ring, its my wedding ring, and I don't even know where it is...
But I ordered a couple cheap china made rings off Ebay for pipes. Instead of being flat on the inner side of the ring, the center of the ring was a few MM's higher and then sloped down to the edges. Why, I don't know. I guess for comfort. But if you tried to epoxy this ring onto a shank, there would be a really wide glue ring that would need to be covered up somehow.
I don't know if I've described it clearly, but if you order the same kind of rings you will see what I mean.
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Alden wrote:I'm not really a jewelry kind of guy. I own one ring, its my wedding ring, and I don't even know where it is...
But I ordered a couple cheap china made rings off Ebay for pipes. Instead of being flat on the inner side of the ring, the center of the ring was a few MM's higher and then sloped down to the edges. Why, I don't know. I guess for comfort. But if you tried to epoxy this ring onto a shank, there would be a really wide glue ring that would need to be covered up somehow.
I don't know if I've described it clearly, but if you order the same kind of rings you will see what I mean.
I know what your talking about now, I have noticed that on wider rings b4
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If you ask Sas real nicely he might part with some of his nipple rings. :lol:
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probably take a long time to clean out the Fur
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While we are on this topic I tried to search this but I was unable to find what I was looking for

If my mortise is lets ssay 5/16 and I want to add a ring or an extension, I cut a tenon on the end of the shank to accept the ring or extension, so what is the smallest size tenon that is acceptable on a shank with a mortise that is 5/16?

Thanks for any help
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If my mortise is lets ssay 5/16 and I want to add a ring or an extension, I cut a tenon on the end of the shank to accept the ring or extension, so what is the smallest size tenon that is acceptable on a shank with a mortise that is 5/16?
I would think it would depend somewhat on what your ring material is. With strong material surrounding the shank tenon and a good glue job you could probably get away with 3/8. And, how tight the fit is between the stem tenon and the 5/16 mortise will play a factor. 13/32 would be a lot safer.
I've cracked a few trying to use exotic wood extensions. Depends on the grain structure of the extension. Acrylic is strong. And, what is the ultimate o.d. of the shank?
The bigger it is the more strength you will have.
Again, several things to consider.
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So what your saying is 1/16 is cutting it close but will work with a strong ring/extension, but best to keep it a bit thicker with 3/32 more than the mortise?

Thanks Chas!
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So what your saying is 1/16 is cutting it close but will work with a strong ring/extension, but best to keep it a bit thicker with 3/32 more than the mortise?
Yes, in my opinion. Others may have different thoughts.
Main thing is that you've got to put some thought into it and evaluate all the variables.
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