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 Post subject: New Pipe Kits
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:07 pm 
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I just received three pipe kits from Mark Tinsky. Praise for Mark is probably not a surprising thing, especially on this forum, but I want to say that despite ordering three normal ebauchon kits, Mark went ahead and gave me three small plateaux kits that he sets aside for small projects such as mine. This is both a blessing and a curse, because I DO see the excellent grain, but I'm also now a bit more afraid to make errors! I know I won't know until I try. The two flat-topped kits are intended for prince shapes, and the third for a small billiard. Go Mark! I will post up my progress once I begin.

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 Post subject: Re: New Pipe Kits
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:19 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: New Pipe Kits
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:33 pm 
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Yeah he's a good guy. I recently got a variety of blocks from him. It was able to fit them all in one box so I would save the extra shipping. Those look good can't wait to see what you do


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 Post subject: Re: New Pipe Kits
PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:03 pm 
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Hey all,

I've been working on it these past two days on and off, and here are the results of my work thus far.

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This is what I'm hoping to go for. What do you guys think?
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I know that a classic English Billiard will have slightly rounded qualities, but perhaps I'm still at too rough a stage to receive any very useful critique. Any thoughts are welcome.

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 Post subject: Re: New Pipe Kits
PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:05 pm 
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Ah, I guess the question is, should I resort to filing at this point? Or do you think I could give it a couple more go's on the disc sander?

And I'm using the disc sander on something like this

http://www.homewoodltd.co.uk/images/Cha ... sander.jpg

so I don't have nearly as much freedom as one would have with a completely open disc.

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 Post subject: Re: New Pipe Kits
PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:42 pm 
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Chainsaw file and sandpaper at this stage. You need to learn how to take off material slowly before you can take it off quickly. You'll ruin less briar that way.

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 Post subject: Re: New Pipe Kits
PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:53 pm 
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Yeah. Nice files will work quickly as will nice sharp sandpaper. You can grind safe edges on flat files to get the shank. Also, a rough nail board (like the one you get in the manicure section of Walmart) works nicely once you get closer to the shape you want.


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 Post subject: Re: New Pipe Kits
PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:41 pm 
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Great! I will do just that.

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 Post subject: Re: New Pipe Kits
PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:28 am 
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Hello Everyone,

I've gotten fairly far with files and rasps, so thank you for the suggestion! I have below some more photos of my billiard so far. Any critiques about shaping and whatnot are welcome! I went back home an looked at my other billiards, and they are all much trimmer, so I at least have a general idea to trim things down a bit. Also, should I bother keeping the plateau? I'm getting the impression that if I DO plan on slimming it down, keeping the plateau top would mean a billiard that is too tall to keep in line with classic proportions.

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 Post subject: Re: New Pipe Kits
PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:41 am 
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Take some meat off the shank all the way around to make the shank a little straighter. Your bowl is actually fine with the plateaux, so it's a matter of taste whether you keep it or smooth out the rim.


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 Post subject: Re: New Pipe Kits
PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:51 am 
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Thanks for the advice Sandahl, I did just that and it looks significantly better. I also went ahead and got rid of the plateau because it really wasn't calling out to me. I sanded it down with 180 grit sandpaper yesterday after filing a thinner button on the mouthpiece, but then I realized that I could probably get rid of a bit of meat on the backside of the bowl where it meets the shank. Looking at the photo, it almost looks like some failure of a canted zulu... maybe I had too much arching transition in the heel? As always, I greatly welcome critiques and opinions. Thanks!

I've also gotten a start on my prince. I'm trying to model it off a Barling Prince, but who knows where I'll end up XD

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 Post subject: Re: New Pipe Kits
PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:06 pm 
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Looks better! The bowl curves out about 2mm too far towards the shank. If you take the crease in more toward the bowl, the shape will look more billiardy. Also, the rim angles up in the front. Take a few mm off the top only on the side of the bowl opposite the shank so the bowl tilts forward and I think you'll have a winner.


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 Post subject: Re: New Pipe Kits
PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:15 pm 
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Ah, yes, I can see how the rim is canted a bit backwards. It still surprises me that such minute adjustments can make a world of difference. I'll get right on fixing both this afternoon.

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 Post subject: Re: New Pipe Kits
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No worries, the next ones will be better!

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 Post subject: Re: New Pipe Kits
PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:41 pm 
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Here's what I think will be the final shaping for my billiard. I shaved off the backwards cant and some more material on the shank. What do you all think?

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Also, I've been shaping my prince more, and I'm quite happy with how it's turning out. Just several hours ago it looked like overweight royalty, any suggestions? Of course, I'll b working on the bend after I'm done with the shaping.

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 Post subject: Re: New Pipe Kits
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:23 am 
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In my eyes the bowl on your prince is just touch too big for the shank and stem.
I think the shape looks really good, well rounded, nice and even, very symmetrical, just a bit too big.

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 Post subject: Re: New Pipe Kits
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:36 pm 
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Thanks Seamonster! Yeah, I went back to thin things out to make it daintier. Just used my zippo to heat the stem for the bend. This is what it looks like. I'm pretty certain that I'm done with shaping, so all that's left is some sanding with some 80 grit to remove the gouges I left from filing/rasping, smoothing it to 120, and then 160, and off to the bench it goes. Unfortunately, I currently don't have a set up for staining/buffing/finishing (which is a whole 'nother battle), so I plan on moving to the five new pipe kits from Mark Tinsky. I figure that I'll just work on shaping for now. Thanks for the advice and critiques so far! This site is truly a great resource.

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 Post subject: Re: New Pipe Kits
PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:18 am 
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Not too bad for a start! Enjoy

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 Post subject: Re: New Pipe Kits
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 9:18 am 
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You are showing some really good progress there! keep up the good work :)


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 Post subject: Re: New Pipe Kits
PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:58 pm 
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Any chance of some photos of the finished products? I know this is a very old post but I'd love to see the finished pipes!


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