"denatured alcohol"

peejay · Post by **peejay** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:34 pm

Just ordered some dyes from over the water in the usa, they have to be mixed with denatured alcohol.....Over here in the UK I cant seem to locate it. Does anyone in the UK know of a supplier or a substitute. I was told it is methylated spirits but this is stained purple over here. Any ideas?
thanks

RadDavis · Post by **RadDavis** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:07 pm

Hey Peejay,

Have you tried the hardware or DIY store? Denatured alcohol is used for thinning shellac, so you should be able to find it there.

Rad

Post by **KurtHuhn** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:45 pm

It may also be called ethyl acohol or methyl acohol. In a pinch, you can use any 190-proof hard liquor - though that may get expensive.

The reason why it's called "denatured alcohol" here in the US is because they add a small amount of additives to make it no longer fit for human consumption. What we get here is basically ethyl acohol with gasoline added - goodness knows our government doesn't want us drinking from tin cans we get at the hardware store....

Post by **Tyler** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:54 pm

KurtHuhn wrote:It may also be called ethyl acohol or methyl acohol. In a pinch, you can use any 190-proof hard liquor - though that may get expensive.

The reason why it's called "denatured alcohol" here in the US is because they add a small amount of additives to make it no longer fit for human consumption. What we get here is basically ethyl acohol with gasoline added - goodness knows our government doesn't want us drinking from tin cans we get at the hardware store....

Gasoline? Egads, where do you get your denatured alcohol?

Around here, methanol is the poisonous additive of choice.

Post by **KurtHuhn** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:02 pm

The local mom-n-pop hardware store. Though, that may not be exactly correct, since I'm going on what the person behind the counter was telling me....

RadDavis · Post by **RadDavis** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:46 am

I'm going on what the person behind the counter was telling me....

Never believe the person behind the counter. They generally have no idea.

I'm pretty sure my denatured alcohol doesn't have any gasoline in it. I've tried huffing it, and nothing happens.

Rad

ArtGuy · Post by **ArtGuy** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:13 am

You mean we aren't supposed to drink it?

Post by **KurtHuhn** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:34 pm

RadDavis wrote:Never believe the person behind the counter. They generally have no idea.

Yes, mistake #1.

I'm pretty sure my denatured alcohol doesn't have any gasoline in it. I've tried huffing it, and nothing happens.

And Google has proven me wrong.

bvartist · Post by **bvartist** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:03 am

Kurt, you are not totally wrong. Gasoline has been used as a chemical substance to "denature" ethyl alcohol. Although I believe it is banned from use in the United States. But it is still used in some countries.

Back to peejay's original question. Some countries do dye the alcohol, or methylated spirits. UK must be one of them. You might talk to a furniture maker. They may be able to help you find some without the dye in it. Or go with Kurt's suggestion of 190 proof hard liquor. Or buy alcohol based leather dyes.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:56 am

You could also use water based dyes.

peejay · Post by **peejay** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:40 am

Thanks gents. I was hoping someone from the UK might know of a supplier. Over here it is regulated by customs and excise!!! Anyway Someone else suggested surgical spirits or turps ..Does this sound right.
Someone also suggested vodka....I like that idea but would need to do the mixing before temptation got the better of me