steel tenons?????

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Whats the consensus on steel tenons foe bamboo shanks?? Is there a preffered Diameter both o.d and i.d. thanx Bob Clark
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O.D. 3/16

I.D. 5/32

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I'd suggest O.D. 5/32", .146" ID.

Here's a link to a post which covered this:

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=4481


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I guess you guys got it all figured out then.

Bob, please ingnore my previous post.

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Where do you buy that size, Rad? That's much thinner walls than I have been using.
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staffwalker wrote:Where do you buy that size, Rad? That's much thinner walls than I have been using.
The SS tube Rad mentioned is .188 OD, .156 ID = .016 thick wall, which is thick.

The SS tube I mentioned is .156 OD, .146 ID = .005 thick wall, which is thinner.

The ID 5/32" and OD 3/16" SS tube makes sense if you want to drill your 5/32" airway then "countersink" a 3/16" short mortise on mating ends to accept the SS tenon sleeve, thereby keeping a continuous 5/32" airway without the .005" SS hump to catch pipe cleaner fuzz (though I've never noticed a problem). That'd be way professional... but come to think of it, it's only an extra step to remember when you're chucked up. Unless, Rad is now drilling 3/16" airways for Major Draw. Anyway, I take the "just drill your 5/32" airway and glue/epoxy your tenon" shortcut.

What thickness (OD/ID) tube are you using Bob?
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RadDavis wrote:I guess you guys got it all figured out then.

Bob, please ingnore my previous post.

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Gent's where's the love I dont want tobe responcable for your break up. thank you Mr. Weaver and Mr.Davis "Roll Crimson Tide" sorry had to get that in there.
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staffwalker wrote:Where do you buy that size, Rad? That's much thinner walls than I have been using.
Here you go, Bob:

http://www.mcmaster.com/#6100k129/=6qqgou

If you maintain a 5/32 airway, you can run a 5/32 drill bit through it when/if the bamboo swells from absorbing moisture. Some bamboo does this more than others, but I got a pipe back from a customer that was totally blocked from the bamboo swelling after smoking it for a few months. I just ran a 5/32 drill bit through it and cleared it out. No more problem.


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baweaverpipes wrote: Rad,
You are such an ignorant hick. As a hillbilly, I make many mistakes and I must be wrong as well since I use the exact same tubing as you.
This causes me pause and I will never copy any of you pipes, ever again. Nor will I be asking you for advice.
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Bruce, you ignorant slut, you are so fickle.

You're pathetic and I am a lesser man for knowing you.

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Please note, folks who are wondering, in the thread linked to at the start of the this thread:

I had misstated that I use 5/32 OD tubing, and that is not the case. Later in the thread I corrected myself.

The tubing you want is .180" OD, and .160" ID with .010" wall thickness. It is McMaster-Carr part number 89935K252 in 316 stainless steel. Get the 316 over the 304 alloy due to improved corrosion resistance.

I use this tubing for the exact reasons Rad detailed.
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RadDavis wrote:
staffwalker wrote:Where do you buy that size, Rad? That's much thinner walls than I have been using.
If you maintain a 5/32 airway, you can run a 5/32 drill bit through it when/if the bamboo swells from absorbing moisture. Some bamboo does this more than others, but I got a pipe back from a customer that was totally blocked from the bamboo swelling after smoking it for a few months. I just ran a 5/32 drill bit through it and cleared it out. No more problem.
A-ha! That makes perfect sense. It's always nice to be able to ream your airway.

I guess you guys got it all figured out then.

Bob, please ignore my pre-previous post.
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I love it when you guys talk about reaming an airway. it makes me feel all tingly inside
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Nick wrote:I love it when you guys talk about reaming an airway. it makes me feel all tingly inside
:lol:

mental image ... umm, no, nevermind!
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Forgive my ignorance, but this is my first post and I have never made a pipe, not even smoked one, so please take this for what it is. The words of a know-nothing who is here to learn a new craft. :)

I believe that there is another solution rather than using tubes with a given diameter. If I understand it correctly there are makers that instead use a stainless steel bolt with the outer diameter pretty much fitting in the bamboo piece in question. Then the pipemaker drills a hole through the whole length of the bolt with the inner diameter of choice.

Does it make any sense?
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Nick wrote:I love it when you guys talk about reaming an airway. it makes me feel all tingly inside
Should I bust out the assless chaps? :shock:
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Say it again for me, big boy!
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