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Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 11:56 am
by Nick
I think Kurt hit it on the head. There's no best way to do it, or overall customer preference. Just hack away and have fun.

Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 5:25 pm
by bscofield
Hack away and have fun
Am I the only one that gets a little satisfaction out of beating the crap out of the thing that I so painstakingly tried to keep smooth and ding free!? :D

Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 4:56 pm
by jeff
Yeah, I find placing a sharp tool on the surface I have spent so many hours shaping to be very uncomfortable. There's always that thought, "What if I screw this up?" It would be quite a shame to ruin all that hard work.

Jeff

Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 5:06 pm
by bscofield
It would be quite a shame to ruin all that hard work.

Depending on how much your rusticating, but isn't it kind of hard to mess it up?[/quote]

Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 8:15 pm
by Tyler
I have ruined a pipe or two rusticating.

I am usually very agressive with the tool in order to get a craggy deep surface. The most recent "On the Bench" pipe, the trianble bamboo, will be rejected because I carelessly removed too much wood and I am now uncomfortable with the wall thickness. The pipe was great before I did that!

Now I have a nice new bamboo, but I would rather have sold it. :cry:

One also can ruin the lines of a pipe if you don't pay attention to what you are doing.

Tyler

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:29 pm
by sgresso
Can any one email me ow to make that hand rustication tool?
I tried to look on tyler site but it won't load up for me?

Thanks

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:50 pm
by Tano
Here are a couple of pictures of rusticating tools I had saved in my files. Hope they give you some ideas.
Tano
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:50 pm
by sgresso
Sweet!
Thanks I think i got some good idea's now.

I also tried to use a small hole saw tonight.
That seem to work well and I think when i get something like you have in the pics I will be set!


thanks for all the help and my first pipe is coming together!

I have learned so much on this one!!!

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:33 pm
by Tyler
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1/2" pipe fittings
1/2" compression fitting filled with masonry nails that have been sharpened on grinder. Cut the heads off the nails.

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 11:57 pm
by Butch_Y
Now that's using your bean. :thumb:

Nice job and thanks for the idea.

I'm thinking a larger diameter would allow you to create a slightly hollow sphere with the nail tips allowing more surface to be torn up at once. If the compression fitting isn't destroyed after the first tightening, you could loosen the whole thing to adjust to a new stummel shape time and again.

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:16 pm
by flix
I've also heard of others using a battery operated screwdriver with a #2 phillips head that's been blunted. It's sort of like a Torx bit, only with 4 flutes. I've not used one before, YMMV...

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:27 pm
by sgresso
How hard do you press when you rusticate?

I don't want to crack the bowl.
the next one I want to make the tool you guys posted with the nails.

How sharp do you want the nails?
do you glue them in the pipe fittings?

When you rusticate how smooth do you sand before you start?

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:34 pm
by RadDavis
When you rusticate how smooth do you sand before you start?
Smoothness doesn't matter. You are going to rusticate it. The main thing is to get the shape where you want it. I quit at 220 grit if I'm going to blast or rusticate.

rad

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:20 pm
by Tyler
sgresso wrote:How hard do you press when you rusticate?
Hard.
I don't want to crack the bowl.
You won't.
How sharp do you want the nails?
Sharper makes the process easier. It also makes rusticating your palm easier. 8O
do you glue them in the pipe fittings?
No.
When you rusticate how smooth do you sand before you start?


I don't sand any unless you consider shaping on the sanding disc sanding. I go straight from the disc to rusticating. No need to make smooth that which you about to effort to make rough.

Tyler