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wdteipen wrote:

andrew wrote:Waterglass is the fastest drying of the ones mentioned. A honey mix takes a min of 12 hrs or so out here, but we have negative humidity so...

If you use sour cream and activated charcoal it'll take 12 hrs or so. The biggest difference between the honey, waterglass, and sour cream options for me is appearance. The sour cream coat is matte, the waterglass one is slightly shiny, the honey recipie can be very shiny (at least that's how they came out for me).

Interesting. The honey mixture I use is matte and it's black as opposed to the milk paint mixture which is gray which is why I prefer the honey mixture. I'm guessing it has to do with the ingredient ratios as to whether you get a matte or shiny finish.

Tyler wrote:

wdteipen wrote:

andrew wrote:Waterglass is the fastest drying of the ones mentioned. A honey mix takes a min of 12 hrs or so out here, but we have negative humidity so...

If you use sour cream and activated charcoal it'll take 12 hrs or so. The biggest difference between the honey, waterglass, and sour cream options for me is appearance. The sour cream coat is matte, the waterglass one is slightly shiny, the honey recipie can be very shiny (at least that's how they came out for me).

Interesting. The honey mixture I use is matte and it's black as opposed to the milk paint mixture which is gray which is why I prefer the honey mixture. I'm guessing it has to do with the ingredient ratios as to whether you get a matte or shiny finish.

And whether or not the milk-based is black or gray.

I'm fairly certain all the mentioned recipes can be mixed to result in a black matte finish. I get a deep black matte finish with milk based, and I have in my possession an unsmoked pipe coated with water glass that has a deep black matte finish. Wayne says he gets that with honey based. Ratio, it seems, it they key to the appearance.

Charl wrote:Just by the way, where do you get waterglass from? I asked my pharmacist and his eyes just glazed over
Been using the buttermilk/sourcream recipe for years, but I'm not very happy with the results.
Oh, and another one: when using pumice, just to make sure, the black version is used?

wdteipen wrote:<SNIP> ....I can't recall where I purchased my waterglass from and have since given it to Nate so I can't check the label.

wdteipen wrote:

Charl wrote:Just by the way, where do you get waterglass from? I asked my pharmacist and his eyes just glazed over
Been using the buttermilk/sourcream recipe for years, but I'm not very happy with the results.
Oh, and another one: when using pumice, just to make sure, the black version is used?

I used cosmetic grade ultra fine pumice when I used that recipe and it was a light gray, almost white. I got it online at http://www.lemelange.com. A pound of it was $4 and shipping was $9.80.

I can't recall where I purchased my waterglass from and have since given it to Nate so I can't check the label.

Tyler wrote:

wdteipen wrote:

Charl wrote:Just by the way, where do you get waterglass from? I asked my pharmacist and his eyes just glazed over
Been using the buttermilk/sourcream recipe for years, but I'm not very happy with the results.
Oh, and another one: when using pumice, just to make sure, the black version is used?

I used cosmetic grade ultra fine pumice when I used that recipe and it was a light gray, almost white. I got it online at http://www.lemelange.com. A pound of it was $4 and shipping was $9.80.

I can't recall where I purchased my waterglass from and have since given it to Nate so I can't check the label.

Wanna sell me the leftovers?

Alden wrote:Waterglass is Sodium Silicate right ?
http://www.amazon.com/Sodium-Silicate-p ... waterglass