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Precarbonizing a bowl

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:31 pm
by BlueBriar
Hey guys, so iv always believed in the past that a chamber that was not pre-carbonized required more work to break in, but smoked better long term due to the tobacco oils. Im wondering what yall's thoughts are. I'm realizing it something i should more heavily consider doing to the pipes I make, as many of my customers would likely benefit from the simplicity of pre-carbonization. Whats the best way to do it? iv heard about mixtures of charcoal and buttermilk. Is that better than burning it? and once the mixture is applied, do you let it sit? or burn it? i have no clue. Can it be used to raise a chamber bottom drilled slightly too low for the air hole? Thanks.

Re: Precarbonizing a bowl

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:40 pm
by scotties22
Do a search for bowl coatings. There is quite a bit of information in a handful of threads where we have discussed the pros/cons before.

Re: Precarbonizing a bowl

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:52 pm
by sandahlpipe
BlueBriar wrote: Can it be used to raise a chamber bottom drilled slightly too low for the air hole? Thanks.
What scottie said for doing a search on the forum for formulas and methods of bowl coatings. No burning necessary.

As for fixing poorly drilled pipes, I wouldn't waste my time. If I mess up on the drilling, I toss the block aside and move to the next. If I were gifted a pipe by someone and it had poor drilling and I needed to fix it, I would use pipe mud, but never in something intended for sale. Pipe mud is made with water and cigar ash. Just a very small amount of water mixed into cigar ash packed into the bottom of the chamber will raise the bottom of the bowl up to where you need it.

Re: Precarbonizing a bowl

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:04 pm
by BlueBriar
Great thanks guys, ill go look through those threads again.

Re: Precarbonizing a bowl

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:16 pm
by PremalChheda
TIAFO

Re: Precarbonizing a bowl

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:04 pm
by wdteipen
PremalChheda wrote:TIAFO
Can we get Alden in here to interpret?

Re: Precarbonizing a bowl

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:13 pm
by scotties22
TIAFO = This Isn't A Fucking Octopus!

What's that, you say? That's not right? HHmmmmm :lol:

Re: Precarbonizing a bowl

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:09 pm
by Jthompson1995
How about "try it and find out"

Re: Precarbonizing a bowl

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:19 pm
by LatakiaLover
I think it's

Tar Is A Faster Option

...as in road tar, bucket of.

Just slather it on like peanut butter. Done.

Re: Precarbonizing a bowl

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:27 pm
by scotties22
LatakiaLover wrote:I think it's

Tar Is A Faster Option

...as in road tar, bucket of.

Just slather it on like peanut butter. Done.
Are you making a sandwich? Never had a PB&RT....how are they?

Re: Precarbonizing a bowl

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:15 pm
by andrew
Marvelous. They also can also be used as a fire starter.

andrew

Re: Precarbonizing a bowl

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:42 am
by Alden
wdteipen wrote:
PremalChheda wrote:TIAFO
Can we get Alden in here to interpret?
Its Premals secret recipe for bowl coatings, he taught me when I was there;
Tabasco, Iodine, Avocado, Frogs and Orange Juice.
Mix well before use. And dont tell anyone what you use, just say its waterglass.

Re: Precarbonizing a bowl

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:44 am
by Alden
scotties22 wrote:TIAFO = This Isn't A Fucking Octopus!

What's that, you say? That's not right? HHmmmmm :lol:

This IS a Fucking Octopus !

Re: Precarbonizing a bowl

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 4:49 am
by socrates
All this time I thought brick mortar was the secret mixture. I guess that pipe is heading to the trash.

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Re: Precarbonizing a bowl

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:49 am
by sakrin
Similar question, but for the outside surface of the bowl. I have seen and done, torching the surface of the wood furniture before clear coating it. Apparently its a Japanese technique called Shou-sugi-ban or Yakasugi somenthing. Its a interesting finish, anybody tried that? I searched extensively but found no such pipes .

Re: Precarbonizing a bowl

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:20 pm
by Alden
It's been done. It can give a look similar to a sandblast, but I've never seen it look great.

Re: Precarbonizing a bowl

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:08 pm
by sakrin
For what its worth, and i suspect not much, it looks like this.
Image
Experimented a litle, AND because the damn thing has cracks AGAIN, i baked it than i scrubed it with a steelbrush.
Maybe i will polish it just to see how it looks, colour looks nice.
To transmit some more expirience gained in this proces, firing the surface helps detecting cracks.

Re: Precarbonizing a bowl

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 5:17 pm
by RDPowell
PremalChheda wrote:TIAFO
toe-inhibiting ankle-foot arthrosis? :nuts: