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Pencil shanked

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 5:34 pm
by brunonut
Hello,
here is a penceil shanked pipe, with a shank diameter of 6.3mm, and 17gr for the weight.
Lenght : 16.7cm
Bit thickness : 3.5mm

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Re: Pencil shanked

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:04 pm
by pipeguy
Nicely done Bruno, the button needs to be evened out just a touch

Re: Pencil shanked

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 9:47 am
by brunonut
Thanks !

Indeed there is a slight curve in the light reflection

Re: Pencil shanked

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:36 am
by scotties22
I like the bowl shape quite a bit. What jumps out to me is the bowl/shank junction on the top (since there is no top or bottom pic I am assuming it is the same all the way around). As your shank gets smaller so must the tools that you use to create the transition. As it is now there is still too much meat on top of the shank just before the bowl. You have to keep the transition very tight, just short of a crease, for the pipe to really sing.

Re: Pencil shanked

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:29 pm
by DocAitch
Very nice, but looks way too fragile for the way I mistreat my poor pipes.
When I evaluate a pipe for my own use, one of the questions I ask is "what's going to happen when(not 'if') I drop it?".
This pipe reminds me of Scotties's work.
Is there some strategically placed steel tubing in there?
DocAitch

Re: Pencil shanked

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:32 pm
by JMG
The stem could stand to be more polished. Also, I agree with Scottie's comments. Pretty cool pipe overall though. I don't think I have the moxie to attempt a pipe this delicate.

Re: Pencil shanked

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:05 pm
by LatakiaLover
Note to carvers in general: Making a pipe this slender is pretty much doomed before it starts if it is conventionally constructed. (I have no idea how this particular one is put together, however)

The shank will darken, soften, and eventually fail from use, and the mortise will crack sooner rather than later. Never mind dropping, which will explode it outright.

The way Scottie makes hers definitely avoids all "slenderness-induced" problems, but know that her design isn't something new and/or hobby carvers will have much luck replicating. It's filled with Gotchas, and going there will result in a lot of lost blocks, stems in the trash bin, pulled-out hair, and a picture of Scottie on your shop wall with darts stuck in it. :lol:

As for the pipe in the photos, the bowl/shank junction definitely needs tightening, and the shank itself swells and shrinks over its length. The stem also looks unfinished. The blast is (obviously) killer, though. :D

Re: Pencil shanked

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:30 pm
by brunonut
scotties22 wrote:I like the bowl shape quite a bit. What jumps out to me is the bowl/shank junction on the top (since there is no top or bottom pic I am assuming it is the same all the way around). As your shank gets smaller so must the tools that you use to create the transition. As it is now there is still too much meat on top of the shank just before the bowl. You have to keep the transition very tight, just short of a crease, for the pipe to really sing.
Yes maybe for the bowl/shank jonction. I didn't want a junction too angular, but the junction may be too curved indeed.

Re: Pencil shanked

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:55 pm
by brunonut
DocAitch wrote:Very nice, but looks way too fragile for the way I mistreat my poor pipes.
Is there some strategically placed steel tubing in there?
yes, here is a steel tube into the mortise to avoid breaking the shank with a classic tenon.
The use of a metal tube is not new. Many pipers use this technique, like some pipemakers also use it with bamboo.

LatakiaLover wrote:As for the pipe in the photos, the bowl/shank junction definitely needs tightening, and the shank itself swells and shrinks over its length. The stem also looks unfinished. The blast is (obviously) killer, though. :D
thanks :)

Re: Pencil shanked

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:45 am
by wdteipen
Cool pipe!

Re: Pencil shanked

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:00 pm
by Charl
Ditto to what you said, Wayne. I like it and really do not mind the shank/bowl transition that way. Makes it look "organic".