High Gloss effect

[Calumet]

Dear pipe makers.

Here's one question I realy love to ask
Anyone here who can tell me how to get that high gloss shine?
The glossier the better,but it can not be done with chemical stuff.
We dont wanna die smoking our pipe .

I salute
Frank

Blaze it up!

[KurtHuhn]

Pretty much the same way all full-time pipe makers do: sand well, polish, apply carnuba wax.

The key is in being sure that you sand WELL. You need to remove all the scratches from the previous grit before moving on to the next. Then polish with compound - some makers use both brown tripoli and white diamond. After that, apply carnuba with a soft buff, then give it a final buff with the softest buff you can find running at a fairly low speed.

That's the tried and true. Some pros also use shellac to set the stain and provide for an even greater depth of shine.

[Calumet]

Kurt,
Thanks very much.For your quick reaction.
Tomorrow I 'll run to the woodsuppliesstore
and look for the right tools.
Maybe one question more on this subject
Do you have a seperate buffing wheel for each compound?
Kind regards
Frank

[RadDavis]

Do you have a seperate buffing wheel for each compound?

Absolutely! This is a neccessity, just like having one paper for each grit.

Rad

[JSPipes]

I'm working an experiment with this now. I'm sanding a pipe to 2000 grit, which is farther than I normally go. I also ordered some really thick, soft, 8 inch buffs that I'm going to try as well.

Result forthcoming in another week or 2.

[Tyler]

I've got bad news...buffing compound AND carnuba are chemicals.

Sorry.

Tyler :think:

[Calumet]

Tyler,

Are you sure?

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Carnauba is a wax derived from the leaves of a plant native to northeastern Brazil, the carnauba palm (Copernicia prunifera). It is known as "queen of waxes" and usually comes in the form of hard yellow-brown flakes. It is obtained from the leaves of the carnauba palm by collecting them, beating them to loosen the wax, then refining and bleaching the wax.
Carnauba wax contains mainly esters of fatty acids (80-85%), fatty alcohols (10-15%), acids (3-6%) and hydrocarbons (1-3%). Specific for carnauba wax is the content of esterified fatty diols (about 20%), hydroxylated fatty acids (about 6%) and cinnamic acid (about 10%). Cinnamic acid, an antioxidant, may be hydroxylated or methoxylated. formula:CH3(CH2)26COO(CH2)31(CH3).

Purely out of interest I looked it up,don't wnna be a wiseass.
Don't know bout the Tripolli waxes,still

This brings me to another question about how to get that 'perfect'finish.
About sanding sealers
Dont know if it 's nescesary to use them?
And when,how, to aply it?
after the finest grit sanding paper?
Finally I 've seen two kinds of sealrs for wood
one made on a base of acrylic an the other made with celluose(don't know if I write it correct) what should be the best option no sealer at all?
the one with Acryl or the one with the celluloses?

(if someone could explaine me how to attach pictures I could show a pic.)

Onward on a Quest for that 'Perfect"shine

Thanks in advance to everyone
each one teach one

[KurtHuhn]

I've got bad news...buffing compound AND carnuba are chemicals.

Leave it to an engineer.

Calumet,

I think what Tyler is saying is that *everything* that isn't in pure elemental form, is a chemical compound. Everything from the wood of the pipe to the smoke that is generated inside it. Your skin, carnuba wax, hair, and plastic bags are all made up of chemical compounds. Strange but true.

Some chemical compounds are more harmful than others, though.

[Tyler]

...I don't wanna be a wiseass.

I do.

Carnauba wax contains mainly esters of fatty acids (80-85%), fatty alcohols (10-15%), acids (3-6%) and hydrocarbons (1-3%). Specific for carnauba wax is the content of esterified fatty diols (about 20%), hydroxylated fatty acids (about 6%) and cinnamic acid (about 10%). Cinnamic acid, an antioxidant, may be hydroxylated or methoxylated. formula:CH3(CH2)26COO(CH2)31(CH3).

I rest my case.

This brings me to another question about how to get that 'perfect'finish.
About sanding sealers
Dont know if it 's nescesary to use them?
And when,how, to aply it?
after the finest grit sanding paper?
Finally I 've seen two kinds of sealrs for wood
one made on a base of acrylic an the other made with celluose(don't know if I write it correct) what should be the best option no sealer at all?
the one with Acryl or the one with the celluloses?

I'll be helpful now. Sanding sealers are not necessary, though they can be useful. I've never used them, though I have had the use of them explained. Basically, they were used after the finest grit, then resanded with the finest grit. I don't know what type.

(if someone could explaine me how to attach pictures I could show a pic.)

Read through this thread for instructions:

http://www.pipemakersforum.com/modules. ... topic&t=42

Have fun!

Tyler

[Calumet]

Hi Tyler,

Thanks for your help.
This is a newbie speaking but eager to lear it all.
Got a few pipes given as a present but they was at a terrible state
so I decieded to learn pipe making by step by step restoring the old pipes into new old pipes ,
Doing so to learn more about pipes and how they are made.

So I took the one I liked most
Got rid of all the dirt and stain
and then started sanding.

Now I trie to build a set up for the buffing wheels on my drill press
(I have to use my hand drill cause this one is speed adjustable)
I still have to wait for the Carnauba wax to arrive.

When the former owner sees his óld pipes'again he must be suprised.
So I 'll keep on working to the get me a satisfying result inna 'trial and error' manner before I even think of buying me a piece of briar.

Therefor I studie the subject on this forum,with your help and Kurts, Rad's,and the rest of you guys ,my on line teachers.

Shine ,shine like the sun