Bamboo Procedure?

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Bamboo Procedure?

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Hi, I had always thought one extended the s'steel tube completely through the bamboo from stem to strummel but after reading Kurt's method, posted here, and reading Tyler's on his site I am no longer sure. If I am reading both methods correctly you guys use ss only on each end of the bamboo to made the various connections, tenons, etc. Is this correct? If this is correct may I ask why not use enough tube to go completely through the bamboo from stem to strummel?

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I would think that the cost of stainless steel has something to do with it. I'm I correct?
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you do NOT extend the SS tubing through the bamboo! The bamboo is a wonderful moisture absorber! And you don't want to eliminate that potential by using the SS tubing (which is not very expensive). I use brass tubing, btw.
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Ben's answer is a good one. The only thing I can add is weight. One reason for using bamboo is to make the pipe very light. Adding a metal tube the length of the bamboo is unnecessary weight.

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It's not really a weight reason - the SS tube is so light that it doesn't add a significant amount of weight. I use the stuff from McMaster Carr that has a 3/16 OD and 5/32 ID - very lightweight.

Believe it or not, but the biggest reason I do not use a full length SS liner in the bamboo is because it's such a royal PITA to make the hole straight enough to easily slip a tube all the way through. And the fact that bamboo is a great moisture absorber is the icing on the cake.
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KurtHuhn wrote:It's not really a weight reason - the SS tube is so light that it doesn't add a significant amount of weight. I use the stuff from McMaster Carr that has a 3/16 OD and 5/32 ID - very lightweight.

Believe it or not, but the biggest reason I do not use a full length SS liner in the bamboo is because it's such a royal PITA to make the hole straight enough to easily slip a tube all the way through. And the fact that bamboo is a great moisture absorber is the icing on the cake.
That's true! Some of the coolest looking bamboo pipes have curved bamboo shanks. Not too terribly difficult to drill, I wouldn't imagine, but hard enough to thread with a metal tube.
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From what I understand, the stuff used for pipes is actually rattan, not hollow bamboo. Not sure about that, though.

Since it is fairly flexible, I clamp the curved ones between 2 pieces of wood to straighten it out when drilling. After it's drilled & removed from clamping, it returns to its curved shape.
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Hi Frank,

The stuff used for pipes is actually the rhizome (root) of the bamboo. Looks just like small bamboo but not hollow.

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Better known in the bamboo world as Wangi.
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Question, how do you sand the junction of bamboo/strummel, bamboo/stem. Is the bamboo sandable without messing up the outer sheath.

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sand it with no heavier grit than 400. For my first I used a sanding disc to get it down to size and then VERY carefully made it even with a file. Then 400 grit.
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staffwalker wrote:Question, how do you sand the junction of bamboo/strummel, bamboo/stem. Is the bamboo sandable without messing up the outer sheath.
Very, very carefully. :)

In all seriousness, I start that shaping on my belt grinder at 120 grit, then move to 180 and 220 discs. You just have to be very careful at that junction and keep a very close eye on the contract surfaces at all times.
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