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Tobacco Chamber Profiles

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:12 pm
by d6monk
Hi everyone,

This is my first post, so I first wanted to say that all of you have been a huge help in getting me started with pipe making. This community is one of the best I've ever seen. Friendly, open, very helpful, and amazing pipes! I truly appreciate it and I hope I will be able to contribute in the coming months/years.

Anyway, I have been getting ready to make my first pipe (just waiting for some drill bits etc. to come by mail), and had a question regarding tobacco chamber profiles. I hope ckr doesn't mind me using one of his graphics he posted on another site a while ago so everyone knows what I'm talking about:

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Which should I use and which should I avoid? Do they each have benefits and drawbacks? I was wondering what shape everyone uses and why.

Thanks!

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:12 pm
by bscofield
I use something between a B and C and will soon be switching to more of a C.

I use that profile because I like it :D

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:25 am
by Sasquatch
You'll get tons of opinions on tobacco chamber shape. We had a discussion on another forum about people's preference regarding conical chambers vs more cylindrical, say, your shape e vs shape c. Lots of guys hated conically drilled bowls, and lots preferred them!

I've heard it said that flake-oriented pipes (like a pot, say) should be drilled relatively flatter and wider than ordinary.

I've got all kinds of pipes with all sorts of variations on bowl height, shape and width. And really, they all smoke about the same. I do find that I have to pack conical bowls differently, but I can get them to work.

For the average pipe, I would pick something approaching C.

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:31 am
by wdteipen
I'm at work and can't see your graphic but I can say I prefer a cylindrical chamber unless the shape requires a conical one. I find that conical bowls require more care especially when packing and tamping. Not only do you get downward pressure but you get wedge pressure which, if not careful, can over pack the tobacco in the heel. From an engineering standpoint, I find cylindrical better.

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:39 pm
by KurtHuhn
I use A, B, and C, with some occasinal use of E.

D is probably acceptable in some pipes, but the bottom is a bit too square for my liking, and F is right out in my opinion.

The particular chamber shape I choose for a given pipe has more to do with the exterior shape of the pipe than anything else. I'd say I use A and B most often.

Re: Tobacco Chamber Profiles

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:26 pm
by FredS
d6monk wrote: Do they each have benefits and drawbacks?
I won't speak to the smokability of the shapes, but from a pipemaking standpoint, shapes D, E, F will be harder to drill - especially if your using a drill press. D & F will want to wander more than the other, "self-centering" shapes. E will have a LOT of cutter surface area in contact with the workpiece, and it gets worse as you go deeper. These problems will be worse with spade type bits, but will even be exhibited somewhat with twist bits.

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:30 pm
by Ryan
The bit I use is a cross between b and e

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:17 am
by Anvil
"a... b... F!"

"c Sir"

"Right! C!"

KABOOM!!!

(for those who don't get this one, please ignore it and assume that I am at least partially sane.)

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:36 am
by Cariztian
I dont have any drill bits.. so.. i use my dremel and create a cross between "E" and "B".. wich often ends up half-circular :oops:


=P

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:39 pm
by Alan L
Anvil wrote:"a... b... F!"

"c Sir"

"Right! C!"

KABOOM!!!

(for those who don't get this one, please ignore it and assume that I am at least partially sane.)
You are not sane, but the rabbit, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it. :wink:

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:41 pm
by d6monk
Thanks everyone, it's nice to know what people are using.

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:41 pm
by kbadkar
A for shape first, using a spoon bit
B to C for drill first, using modified spades.

Like someone said earlier, it depends on the design/final shape of the pipe. The nice thing with modifying spade bits is that you can "easily" shape a bit to fit the profile of your pipe shape, and thereby build up a nice collection possible chamber shapes. I've never tried smoking a "D" and "F" flat bottom, but I've had some troubles packing/smoking a Bjorn Thurmann pipe with an "E". It's very fickle about tobacco cut and packing technique.

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:51 pm
by Frank
Alan L wrote:You are not sane, but the rabbit, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it. :wink:
Python rocks! :rockon:

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:33 pm
by pierredekat
Yeah, I'm with Kurt: A, B, C, and sometimes E.

For me, having a certain visual design in mind generally dictates the shape of the bore.