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Why the F@#k wont my Fiebings Dyes mix together? I just tried a top coat on my contrast stain, all I got was a butt ass ugly splotchy top coat. A mixture of yellow, maroon and medium brown. Help.

I don't know dick about mixing dyes....but, I guess it depends on who's "butt ass" we are talking about as to weather it looks good or not..

Hope this helps

Scottie

I mix 'em all the time. Never an issue.

So why is it that I'm having splotches of nasty yellow hither and thither and I get a nice coppery tone in other parts?

The Smoking Yeti wrote:So why is it that I'm having splotches of nasty yellow hither and thither and I get a nice coppery tone in other parts?

Uneven sanding? Show us some pics.

Rad

I'll get some pics if I F it up again. But it isn't uneven sanding per-say. I'm still seeing equal amounts of the black grain throughout. It's actually as if my two dyes wont merge in solution, so it seems like one of those stupid rainbow colored gel pens. As I brush across it changes hues from yellow to this pretty coppery orange and dries into different colors. I mixed some yellow, light brown, and maroon in an attempt to diffuse the nasty greenish hue of the straight yellow dye.

Are there any alternative colors I ought to consider for a top coat? Pics to come.

thats really odd... i mix fibings all the time with good consistent results as well. i would guess something else is amiss.

The Smoking Yeti wrote:Why the F@#k wont my Fiebings Dyes mix together? I just tried a top coat on my contrast stain, all I got was a butt ass ugly splotchy top coat. A mixture of yellow, maroon and medium brown. Help.

Read the labels and make sure are mixing the same base dye. They should be all alcohol or all oil or all water based. Don't think you can mix an alcohol dye with a water dye. You shouldn't have a problem, I mix them all the time. In fact, I mix different brands, just as long as both have the same base. Never had a problem. bob gilbert

Why mix them when you can get every shade of every color in every hue imaginable. Consistency should be the goal, so I would recommend that, if you are going to mix them, do it by the bottle. However, to answer your actual question, instead of doling out unsolicited advice--which is more my wont-- I have a hunch. About a year ago, Feibings changed many of their reddish dyes "alcohol based" dyes to "spirit-based" dyes because of some bullshit in California having to do with cancer in fetal chipmunks. The new dyes work similarly to the old ones, but don't penetrate as deeply. I'm guessing you may be getting some sort of slight "oil and water" effect. BTW, "yellow, maroon, and medium brown" sounds like British Tan to me. Try buying British Tan. It always mixes well with British Tan.

TJ

SHIT! So there's a good chance that Feibing's dyes are moving away from the methyl alcohol base? That might make things tedious in a hundred ways.

What's the "safe" carrier, I wonder?

British tan also works exceptionally well as starter fluid for burning the prop 65 notices (only small amounts, wouldn't want to waste dye on health hazard propaganda). I heard the stuff sterilized a panda, I mean they force fed it to him, but still, scarry stuff.

I wonder if Gracik has a decent fiebings bootleg operation going yet?

British Tan you say?...

Sasquatch wrote:SHIT! So there's a good chance that Feibing's dyes are moving away from the methyl alcohol base? That might make things tedious in a hundred ways.

What's the "safe" carrier, I wonder?

You can always buy alcohol soluble aniline dye powders and mix your own.

Rad

That may be what happens if I start getting spirit-based stains out of feibings.

The Smoking Yeti wrote:British Tan you say?...

I have met a lot of Brits... none of them were tan

just sayin

rev

RadDavis wrote:

Sasquatch wrote:SHIT! So there's a good chance that Feibing's dyes are moving away from the methyl alcohol base? That might make things tedious in a hundred ways.

What's the "safe" carrier, I wonder?

You can always buy alcohol soluble aniline dye powders and mix your own.

Rad

I can recommend J.E. Moser's. I've been using it all along. Fiebing's says "leather dye" so I was afraid it wouldn't work on wood.

wdteipen wrote:

RadDavis wrote:

Sasquatch wrote:SHIT! So there's a good chance that Feibing's dyes are moving away from the methyl alcohol base? That might make things tedious in a hundred ways.

What's the "safe" carrier, I wonder?

You can always buy alcohol soluble aniline dye powders and mix your own.

Rad

I can recommend J.E. Moser's. I've been using it all along. Fiebing's says "leather dye" so I was afraid it wouldn't work on wood.

Moser's is what I use too.

Rad

For those who are also curious:

Je Moser's Alcohol Soluble Aniline Dies