Semois Pipe Tobacco: US Group Buy

d.huber · Post by **d.huber** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:12 am

If you're involved in the group buy, please check your PM for details.

If you have any general questions, please feel free to post in this thread. If you have any specific questions, please PM me.

Received in full:

Ocelot55
snapper
mredmond
ajpl
taharris
wmolaw
wdteipen
scotties22
the rev
sethile
grrrrr609
staffwalker
sam a
e Markle
staffwalker
AW Price
wisemanpipes

Old info:

I've heard back from Vincent Manil. Below are the details.

Pricing:

Fine Cut/Medium Cut/Thick Cut
100g (4oz) = $13.10
250g (10oz) = $32.74

Bouchons (box of 25) = $65.48

Here is the PDF guide for pipe tobacco and Bouchons: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8-UXJF ... sp=sharing
Here is the PDF guide for cigar pricing: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8-UXJF ... sp=sharing

US import duty on pipe tobacco: $2.8311 per pound (source: http://www.ttb.gov/tax_audit/atftaxes.shtml)

By shipping through USPS, UPS, or FedEx, we can avoid paying duty tax. In order to do this, we will be splitting the whole order into three shipments, 2 boxes of pipe tobacco and 1 box of cigars (including bouchons). As a precaution, I'm still asking everyone for the $2.80 duty tax on pipe tobacco. If this works as it should and we are not charged the duty tax, I will return this fee.

The four of us ordering cigars will be splitting the cost of shipping them as well as the duty tax on small cigars ($50.33 for up to 1000 cigars). Everyone ordering pipe tobacco will split the cost of shipping for the other two boxes.

I've divvied up the conversion fee as well and we're nearing final costs. I'm still waiting for a few people to give me final order numbers. Once I receive those, I'll post a link to the google doc to this thread.

All funds will be transferred to me and I will transfer funds to Massis. He will be driving down in about two weeks to pick up the order. He will then ship to me and I will distribute the order here in the US.

I have received specific cut requests from two people so far (taharris [thin cut] and wmolaw [thick cut]). If you have a preference, please let me know asap. If I am not notified of a preference, you'll receive the medium cut which is what I'm ordering.

scotties22 · Post by **scotties22** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:45 am

I'm down for something...at least 200g. Will have to see how the next week goes before I commit to a pound.

Ocelot55 · Post by **Ocelot55** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:24 am

I'm down with 200grams. Just tack on you shipping cost to me as well.

wisemanpipes · Post by **wisemanpipes** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:41 pm

im in for 200g as well. ive wanted to try it but didnt know how to get it.
david pm with the payment details. thanks!

wdteipen · Post by **wdteipen** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:48 pm

I'd be down for half a pound.

d.huber · Post by **d.huber** » Sat Apr 13, 2013 6:27 pm

I'm gonna let this thread ride through Monday and then I'll order.

I'll PM each of you who've responded with your total, which will include shipping from Belgium.

staffwalker · Post by **staffwalker** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 1:54 am

I'll take a pound.

snapper · Post by **snapper** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:25 am

I can't make it to Chicago but I would like a 1/2 lb. If you could ship to PA when if arrives I would be appreciative. A couple shipping charges are no problem. thanks!

d.huber · Post by **d.huber** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:03 pm

Noted.

Total number of participants right now is 7 and shipping costs per person are dropping, which is great!

Just a reminder, I'll stop taking orders at noon on Monday. At that time, I'll send a PM to everyone who wants to place an order. Once I receive ALL funds, I'll order the Semois. As soon as it arrives in the states, I'll divvy it up and ship it to those who need it shipped.

LatakiaLover · Post by **LatakiaLover** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:11 pm

My only fear would be trying the stuff and loving it.

wisemanpipes · Post by **wisemanpipes** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:33 pm

LatakiaLover wrote:My only fear would be trying the stuff and loving it.

i also fear for that! you know what, david put me down for 1/2 a pound!
and tell me how much extra i owe you ontop of my order of 200grams.
thanks!

e Markle · Post by **e Markle** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:05 pm

UberHuberMan wrote: Breakdown:
200g pack: $21.97 per package.
If 5 people participate, that's $109.85 plus $42.38 for shipping, which breaks down to $30.45 per person for a 4oz package. Not bad for hard to get tobacco.
For $87.88 a piece plus shipping, we can each get a pound.

Just to clarify, I believe 200g is just under half a pound (454g = 16 oz). Regardless, I'd be in for 400g.

wisemanpipes · Post by **wisemanpipes** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:10 pm

right! you are mr. markle i was thinking lbs and kg were the other way around for a sec.
2.2 to 1
okay as ernie says.

david can we change it to 16 oz instead of 8

mredmond · Post by **mredmond** » Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:56 pm

David, sign me up for a 200g pack.

Thanks!

ajpl · Post by **ajpl** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:23 am

Aw hell, sign me up for 200g. I could never resist an impulse tobacco purchase, especially for something new and exotic.

I don't suppose we know anything about the differences between the three varieties listed on the website?

d.huber · Post by **d.huber** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:46 am

e Markle wrote:
UberHuberMan wrote: Breakdown:
200g pack: $21.97 per package.
If 5 people participate, that's $109.85 plus $42.38 for shipping, which breaks down to $30.45 per person for a 4oz package. Not bad for hard to get tobacco.
For $87.88 a piece plus shipping, we can each get a pound.

Just to clarify, I believe 200g is just under half a pound (454g = 16 oz). Regardless, I'd be in for 400g.

Doh! I told you I was bad at math!

d.huber · Post by **d.huber** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:53 am

IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ

Hey guys,

It's been brought to my attention that this website isn't selling "real" Semois tobacco. Apparently due to the rarity, there are some fakes available and these guys carry them.

So based on this new information, I've reached out to a few other reputable dealers (aka the growers themselves) and will report back.

Also, I heard back from Vincent Manil. He is unable to ship overseas. I asked him if he uses any retailers in Belgium who can and we'll see what he says.

In light of this new information, would you guys prefer to wait or move forward with the order? I'll go with whatever the group prefers.

So everyone can see for themselves, here are the websites of the three growers with product images:

http://maisonmartin.be/fr/Produits/tabac.html
http://tabacsemois.com/tabac.html
http://www.tabac-semois.com/produits-pa ... tabac.html

Here is the link to the retailer's website. Their product doesn't at all resembe any of the grower's packaging. This indicates to me that the suspicion of a false product is sound.

http://www.latetedor.com/shop/pipes/tab ... uquet.html

the rev · Post by **the rev** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:17 am

well I will be in if you get the real stuff, but I don't want the fake stuff

and if you need any help with math just ask Ernie

rev

scotties22 · Post by **scotties22** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:37 am

I say we wait for one of the growers to get back with us.

Massis · Post by **Massis** » Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:42 am

if you want real Semois, you need Vincent Manil's. He has the best Semois there is.

I might be of some assistance as I live in Belgium. If Vincent is reluctant to ship to the US, I can always act as a mailbox

If need be, I might make it a daytrip and go pick up the group order in the Semois Valley, it's only 2 hours away... If I can convince the wife that is. But if the weather is ok, that shouldn't be too much of a problem

Also, I know how to do the math in EUR to USD (and vice versa), know how to work with grams and kilograms and I speak French (like vincent Manil).

Manil's website isn't very elaborate, but contains some info.
For instance, these are the different sizes of tobacco pouches:
http://www.tabac-semois.com/produits-pa ... tabac.html

His "Pur Semois" (the real stuff

) comes in fine and coarse cut pouches of 100 gr (3.52 oz) and 250gr (8.81 oz).

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