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disk sanders

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 8:37 pm
by Dscott
i am new have seen all using a disk sander to shape with where can you buy these any help would be great
thank you all
David

Re: disk sanders

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:44 pm
by sandahlpipe
Most people buy a motor and then purchase or make an arbor with threads to fit the sanding disc. J. Alan made a sanding disc that fits on the arbor that comes with the Beale buffing set. I personally use a harbor freight motor with a Kurt Huhn arbor. When getting a motor, you want something that spins around 1800RPM.

Re: disk sanders

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:32 am
by W.Pastuch
1800 rpm is a bit slow for a rough shaping motor, I'd advise 2800rpm.
Any machine shop will make you an albo that fits your motor or you can get one of the ready made ones.

Re: disk sanders

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:01 am
by Vermont Freehand
a lot of people use a 36 grit wheel for rough shaping, but since I do not use one, not sure where to send you

I do carry/stock a 5" hook and loop with it's own arbor ($25 for pad and arbor)
and I also carry the J. Alan french wheel that fits on your own Beall arbor ($80 for the french wheel, $15 for the Beall arbor) the paper is in stock for the J.Alan wheels, but the 5" h&l can be found at any hardware store.

the hook and loop pad is flat and has a firm cushioned pad

the J. Alan french wheel is 4" diameter and has a slightly convex shape to it, and the paper wraps around the edges so you can use the outer edge too

Re: disk sanders

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:47 pm
by Dscott
thank you all for the help
David

Re: disk sanders

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:26 am
by BobR
I just went through this recently and I'll share what I did based on inputs from people here. I'm not saying it's the best but it's what I did.

For rough shaping : Angle grinder backer with 36 Grit fiber disk. I'm actually learning with the 50 grit. The benefit is that this setup is very thin which helps getting into tight spaces. I used a bolt compatible with the Beall arbor (bolt threads are 3/8"-16) because I had the Beall buffing system. The arbor that Kurt sells actually has a much more common bolt size of 5/16"-24. I had to wrap some tape around the 3/8" bolt to make it fit tight in the backer plate 5/8" hole (if anyone know of an adapter or better way to do this please let me know). I also added a washer on the back.
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These can be found at home Depot.


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For finish sanding I have the JAlan French Wheel with various grits. I haven't used it yet. Premal or Vermont Freehand sells them (both on this forum). It has the 3/8"-16 bolt for the Beall arbor. I'm not sure if this can be replaced with 5/16"-24 bolt (if desired) but I assume it could be.
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Here is the Beall arbor on my motor. Buffing wheels and the sanding disks easily screw on.
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Hopes this gives you some ideas regarding the use of a disk sander.

Also, unless you are shaping outside, you need some kind of dust collection under the shaping wheel.

Re: disk sanders

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:10 am
by scotties22
I use an 80 grit abralon sanding disc at 1000rpm to do all my rough shaping. I can't go a week without dragging my knuckles on the disc so I haven't gotten a 36 grit wheel yet. I like the cotrol I have with the 80 grit. I dont' do any shape first anyway and the small amount of wood I remove with the wheel doesn't really take long to get rid of. Sure I could do it faster with a 36 grit wheel. I'd go through a box of bandaids a week too :)

Re: disk sanders

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:07 pm
by BobR
Got this from Harbor Freight for $3.99 vs. the $16.00 I paid at Home Depot. It looks just fine.
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Re: disk sanders

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:09 pm
by PremalChheda
I am re-straining myself from going to harbor freight, but I really do need a couple of 4" ones. Last time I went to pick up just a couple of things, I was at the checkout with a full shopping cart and it was 5 hours later.

Re: disk sanders

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:15 pm
by scotties22
Ya gotta put blinders on when you go there.....or just borrow my kids. NOTHING makes me get out of a store faster than those three knuckleheads right before naptime.

Re: disk sanders

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:31 pm
by Dscott
thats great love that idea thank you

Re: disk sanders

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:16 am
by BobR
PremalChheda wrote:I am re-straining myself from going to harbor freight, but I really do need a couple of 4" ones. Last time I went to pick up just a couple of things, I was at the checkout with a full shopping cart and it was 5 hours later.
What do you use the 4" ones for?

Also, any tricks to make a Beall 3/8" bolt fit tightly in the backer plate 5/8" hole? I used tape to thicken it and it did stop the tendency of the bolt to shift at high speed. Just wondering if there was a better way to do it.

Re: disk sanders

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:49 am
by Jthompson1995
BobR wrote:
PremalChheda wrote:I am re-straining myself from going to harbor freight, but I really do need a couple of 4" ones. Last time I went to pick up just a couple of things, I was at the checkout with a full shopping cart and it was 5 hours later.
What do you use the 4" ones for?

Also, any tricks to make a Beall 3/8" bolt fit tightly in the backer plate 5/8" hole? I used tape to thicken it and it did stop the tendency of the bolt to shift at high speed. Just wondering if there was a better way to do it.
I have seen adapters for sale on Amazon and eBay that. Are threaded 5/8 to fit the backer plate and 3/8 on the other end that would fit the beall. I purchased one that was a straight 1/2" shank instead of the 3/8 and use it in my collet chuck on my wood lathe. Much more concentric than rigging a bolt or tape since I don't have a metal lathe to make my own.