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Hand Sharpening Lathe Tools

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:33 am
by tigercasual
Hey guys,

Can you give me suggestions on the best way to sharpen lathe tools is you don't have a bench grinder?

Cheers,
TC

Re: Hand Sharpening Lathe Tools

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:40 am
by Sasquatch

Re: Hand Sharpening Lathe Tools

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:50 pm
by Grammaton
You're going to be spending more time sharpening than turning - by a wide margin. Grinders can be bought cheaper than a decent bowl gouge.
I don't know any productive turners without at least one grinder, some have two.

Re: Hand Sharpening Lathe Tools

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:06 pm
by KurtHuhn
You're definitely going to want a grinder. Even a cheap one will be better than nothing.

I was in Woodcraft over the weekend, and saw this:
http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/208159 ... ystem.aspx

I was drooling the entire time I was playing with it. It's such a high quality unit, and so well constructed, that I estimate it would still be functioning superbly in 50 years when I hand it down to a grandkid. Assuming I had the cash to buy it. :broke:

I was so impressed with it, that I've started designing one to build for myself. It's different from my other belt grinders in that it's small, compact, self-contained, and could fit just about anywhere - even in my crowded workshop.

Re: Hand Sharpening Lathe Tools

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:47 pm
by Sasquatch
You can get sharpening belts for 1x30 sanding machines too, I forgot about that.

Re: Hand Sharpening Lathe Tools

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:29 pm
by Sorringowl
Sasquatch wrote:You can get sharpening belts for 1x30 sanding machines too, I forgot about that.
Great point, Sas. If you've got a belt sander (which is what I have--no grinder), and you're careful, it can do a really nice job of sharpening lathe chisels. Just remember to spray some water onto the blade's edge every so often to keep the metal cool.

Re: Hand Sharpening Lathe Tools

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:52 pm
by KurtHuhn
And that's precisely what I do. I use a 1x42 grinder, and a 1x30 sander can be used the same way.

Don't go less than 220 grit for sharpening though. I usually start at 320 for really beat up edges, or a worn 600 grit just to freshen an established edge. To re-grind a tool profile or knife edge, you want to go pretty big - 60 or 80 grit will remove material fast enough that you won't really have to worry about overheating the steel.

Re: Hand Sharpening Lathe Tools

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:48 pm
by SimeonTurner
Dang, that Sorby setup is spendy, for what you get. For a couple hundred more, you can get a Tormek T-7 which is a commercial grade slow grinding system that will allow you to sharpen anything, with ultra precision. It's spendy, but man, I regret nothing about buying it. My tools are always sharp and always with the best geometry for the job.

I know that's the exact opposite of the OP about sharpening by hand, but, basically, I agree that is a horrible idea. Buy a grinder and a jig or two for sharpening. ;)

Re: Hand Sharpening Lathe Tools

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:15 pm
by KurtHuhn
SimeonTurner wrote:Dang, that Sorby setup is spendy, for what you get. For a couple hundred more, you can get a Tormek T-7 which is a commercial grade slow grinding system that will allow you to sharpen anything, with ultra precision. It's spendy, but man, I regret nothing about buying it. My tools are always sharp and always with the best geometry for the job.
It's expensive, which is why I'm building my own. :)

That said, you need to see it in person. As a part-time knife maker, I nearly wet myself while looking it over. A Tormek looks like a cheap toy in comparison. The only upgrade to the Sorby tool that I can possibly think of would be an infinitely variable speed motor - then there would be no contest. Guess what I'm making mine with. :mrgreen:

Re: Hand Sharpening Lathe Tools

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:48 pm
by Daniel Y
Thinking of what most pipe makers would have int here shop. I would suggest you sharpen them on a sanding belt or disk. An that is only when they need it. You can put an edge back on a turning tool with a slip stone or diamond file just fine. but sooner or later, more often sooner. You will have to grind the edge. You can do this with a sander. If you ever wanted to put a whole different profile on it you would be a long time in getting it done. If you intend to do any amount of turning at all I highly recommend you look at investing in a sharpening system for turning tools. expect that to run about $300 or so for one that is worth owning. I recommend two. the Wolverine or the Tormek. I do not recommend knock off version of either. Some are perfectly fine but unless you know what makes those systems worth $300 or more you have no way of looking at a knock off and knowing if you are getting the same quality of equipment. I never trust opinions of what is a good sharpening machine either by the way. I have seen wood turners swear for years that they get just as sharp tools from their bench grinder as someone with there fancy $300 machine. that is until they sharpened something on a $300 machine. Turning tools do not need to be sharp, they need to be scary sharp.