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has anyone watched the making of a dunhill pipe video

if so is that a reg skew chisel the turner is using to turn the bowl and shank

has anyone ever turned a pipe like this

and if so what other kind of tool can be used a parting tool square scraper a bedan tool

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I think that thing amounts to a scraper rather than a chisel, if that's a distinction you are familiar with. I made a similar one for taking roughing out along the axis by taking a bull nosed scraper and re-grinding it so that it was basically square across the front with about 5 degrees of bevel from top to bottom.

Skew chisels are not really made for that application - if you have a skew flat on the rest you're using it wrong, would be the orthodox turner's take on that.

A skew is handy, a parting tool is handy, and a gouge about 3/8 wide with a fairly elongated cutting profile are the basic pipe cutting tools.
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hey thanks sas

is along the axis the type of turning he is doing w/ the tool rest not parallel to the bowl

but more of a plunge cut into it it seems like the making of a blakemar pipe on youtube is basically doing the same it seems like safer turning than having the tool rest parallel to the work piece

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Well the fact is, if the pipe is bent significantly, then you can't access it from the side at all because the shank is revolving around the bowl. So you get used to attacking pipes "head on" simply because you have to on many shapes.

That big scraper is nice for roughing, but you need to move into a gouge or a chisel to get a better quality of cut at some point. The scrapers tear the wood a lot more.
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Thanks Sas

starting to make alot more sense to me now never really turned this way but will try the head on approach

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I would like to see this video.

Is it available on the Web?
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Hi Todd

yes it is search how its made the dunhill pipe

it is on the science discovery channel and then you can mabe give some insight

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and also Todd
don t know if you have see on youtube the making of a Blakemar pipe

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thanks Nate

not very computer literate with all these links and everything

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Very welcome, they are cool videos, worth watching. Here is a link to the Blakemar:

Blakemar
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OK Nate

mabe you could link another one for me

on youtube the making of a castello pipe nice bandsaw work on this one

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teevee wrote:if so is that a reg skew chisel the turner is using to turn the bowl and shank
It is ground like a skew chisel except that the cutting edge is 90 degrees to the tool instead of 45ish.

I was a wood turner long before I was a pipe maker and I can tell you that I've never seen anyone that wasn't a nube using a skew chisel like that.

I suspect that the modified skew in use in the Dunhill video is used that way because it acts as a negative rake scrapper and leaves a fairly good surface on the wood with minimal tear out. (It's not terribly good on the tool edge though).

Also, the guy in the Blakemer video completely baffles me. Why not just adjust your tool rest to the correct position and much closer to your work so the tools don't jump around and you actually have a little tool control...wierd!
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I think this is the one you wanted:

Castello's Awesome Pipe Making Video
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Nate

Thank you again kind sir

and Todd i think i heard of a 3/8 parting tool can be used a a negative rake scraper

and what tool would you use to turn into the wood like this

your pipe making instructional was very helpful as well loved it

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Basically everything in the Blakemar video is "How to make a pipe ass-backward and be unsafe doing it".

Seems to work out though.

I agree about the idea of a skew-scraper - it's not exactly on the list of mandatory tools for experienced turners. And yet.... it's goddam handy for pipes.

Turning a pipe is akin to making a miniature teapot on the lathe, and who the hell would be dumb enough to do that?
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teevee wrote:and what tool would you use to turn into the wood like this
I tend to use a 1/2" or 3/8" bowl gouge with a swept back grind. Not because this is some magical too, but just because it is the tool that I feel I have the most control over and which can leave me a nice surface to further refine with a little sanding.

I do tend to use my skew to turn the stem tenon and I tend to use it in the orientation you see in the Dunhill video to take the last couple of 1000ths off. This is because the stem material is fairly soft and using the skew in this manner gives me maximum control over the depth of my cut.
teevee wrote:your pipe making instructional was very helpful as well loved it
Thanks, I'm glad you found it useful.

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Sasquatch wrote:Basically everything in the Blakemar video is "How to make a pipe ass-backward and be unsafe doing it".
Yeah, check out his left knuckles while he is test fitting the tenon! You would think he would shut it off after it bit him once. Cool videos, though.

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