#2, Straight Billiard

Want to show you work to the world? Want a place to post photos of your work and solicit the opinions of those that have gone before you? Post your work here.
Post Reply
ajpl
Posts: 58
Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:16 am
Location: Long Beach, CA

#2, Straight Billiard

Post by ajpl »

I was shooting for another classic billiard on this one. It probably should have been rusticated, but I wanted to practice contrast staining some more. Feel free to tear it apart—I want to get better at this!

Image

Image

Image

Image
Drew
"Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice."
User avatar
Ocelot55
Posts: 1639
Joined: Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:31 pm
Location: Columbus, OH
Contact:

Re: #2, Straight Billiard

Post by Ocelot55 »

Okay, first of all for only number 2 that is friggin incredible! You've avoided tons of rookie mistakes and made a pipe that looks better than many factory made pipes I've seen. You should be very proud of yourself.

Okay now the nitpicky stuff, and when I say nitpicky I really mean it.

Look a the bottom view and notice how the shank isn't as well defined from the bowl as it should be. To me this is one of the hardest parts of shaping to get right. Your shank looks slightly wider at the stem shank junction. Not by much, but just enough to notice. If anything your stem should be either the exact same diameter to the bowl or very slightly taper toward the bowl. Finally, it's obvious you have some talent so for the love of all that's holy ditch those prefab stems and start cutting your own.

Very, very good job.
The Drinking Yeti
Posts: 41
Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:46 am

Re: #2, Straight Billiard

Post by The Drinking Yeti »

VERY well done for your second pipe. In facct, well done all around.
I am not the expert, so take what the big boys say more seriously than what I say.
However,
I will second ditching the prefab stems if this is something you plan to do for a while.
I do think the shank is too small in diameter or the bowl is too chubby...
if the bowl were a hair taller and the shank a skosh thicker this baby would sing!
Rev says, "holy shit that is bitchen"
The Smoking Yeti
Posts: 1346
Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:55 pm
Contact:

Re: #2, Straight Billiard

Post by The Smoking Yeti »

One more note- take a bit more off at the bottom of the bowl, so the bottom line flows straight into the stem- as is it has a very un-billiardly sag.
My pipemaking stream of conscience/ website:

http://yetipipe.tumblr.com/
ajpl
Posts: 58
Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:16 am
Location: Long Beach, CA

Re: #2, Straight Billiard

Post by ajpl »

Thanks, guys. I really appreciate the comments.

I am looking forward to making my own stems as well as drilling my own chambers, but I need a good drill press first. A lathe is unfortunately going to be out of my price range (and storage space!) for a few more years, I think. As soon as I can find something on craigslist I'll be off to the races.
Drew
"Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice."
User avatar
Great Plains Piper
Posts: 27
Joined: Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:44 pm
Location: North Dakota

Re: #2, Straight Billiard

Post by Great Plains Piper »

I feel ya on the need for a drill press Drew.

I am working on my 2nd pipe as well and here's hoping it turns out as well as this one did, nice work.
Thus o’er my pipe, in contemplation
Of such things, I can constantly
Indulge in fruitful meditation
And so, puffing contentedly,
On land, on sea, at home, abroad,
I smoke my pipe and worship God.


-Johann Sebastian Bach
User avatar
AlfaDog
Posts: 229
Joined: Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:28 pm
Location: NE Alabama

Re: #2, Straight Billiard

Post by AlfaDog »

I have no critiques. This pipe freaking rocks the house! Excellent second pipe. I'm just a dumb country boy but I'd smoke that pipe in public in a Birmingham minute!
wdteipen
Posts: 2817
Joined: Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:05 pm

Re: #2, Straight Billiard

Post by wdteipen »

That's pretty decent for a second for sure. Since you were shooting for a billiard I will offer critique as if it were supposed to be. That being said, what you have there is a pot. The bowl height is too short for a billiard. It looks like you were chasing that flaw by the rim. I've been there several times myself. The balance of the pipe overall is off. The length of the top of the shank should equal the length of the top of the shank to the rim of the bowl. Your shank is long although it wouldn't be so much if the height of your bowl were right. The length of the stem should be equal to the length of the end of the bowl to the shank. It's hard to tell for sure if the stem length is off with the other proportions being off. I tend to think that if the bowl height was right the shank would still be a tad long which would leave the stem a touch long too. I realize you don't have much play with premolded stems so there's not a whole lot you could do about the stem length. As it is, the length of the stem appears pretty cose to the length of the stummel. As already mentioned, the heel of your bowl dips down below the line of your shank.
Wayne Teipen
Teipen Handmade Briar Pipes
http://www.teipenpipes.com
e Markle
Posts: 1081
Joined: Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:39 pm
Location: Phoenix AZ

Re: #2, Straight Billiard

Post by e Markle »

wdteipen wrote:That being said, what you have there is a pot. The bowl height is too short for a billiard.
I agree with Wayne. I'd say this is somewhere between a billiard and a pot. All of mine are lost in that ambiguous territory as well :)

Yeti mentioned the line on the bottom as well, and this is really important. Make sure that line is both straight as an arrow and perpendicular to the face of the shank.
ajpl
Posts: 58
Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:16 am
Location: Long Beach, CA

Re: #2, Straight Billiard

Post by ajpl »

wdteipen wrote:The balance of the pipe overall is off. The length of the top of the shank should equal the length of the top of the shank to the rim of the bowl. Your shank is long although it wouldn't be so much if the height of your bowl were right. The length of the stem should be equal to the length of the end of the bowl to the shank.
That is extremely helpful; thank you! I've been looking at at lot of billiards and trying to eyeball the dimensions, but having a good rule of thumb or two like this really helps clarify things for me. Is this generally true of bent billiards as well? i.e. length of the top of the shank = length of the top of the shank to the rim of the bowl?

Thanks again for the comments, everyone. :D
Drew
"Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice."
Post Reply