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So I started finished it mostly and the grain was pretty good but had a funny color fluctuation along the grain from the ring grain. Figured I'd stain it with some fiebings black dye ( which by the way is the devil )to hide the funky but instead of hiding it it just accentuated it. So at this point do you think I should just sand the dye off and accept it as is, or do some kind of rustification? I could possibly send it off to be sand blasted , I've seen where a few that offer that service?
Right now I'm about halfway through getting the dye off but figured I'd ask before I put the work in of sanding it all down and back up to higher grits.
Sorry for the shitty photos guys.
Thanks for looking,
Ian
I think if you stain it again with ... just about anything but black, from buckskin to cordovan, you'll have a really nice looking pipe.
There's apparently a little bulge/wobble about an inch from the button, top side of the stem. Just run a file over that now that it's bent and kind of smooth it out if so. Little hard to tell from the pics.
I would stain it with something lighter and then finish it with whatever buffing technique you use. A lot of improvement on this pipe from your others, btw.
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Decided to take some of the plateau off to even out the top and make the stem side of the bowl not so high so it will be about half plateau half birds eye. Don't have access to more fiebings at this time what would be another option? Something house hold that I could use for a light stain. Would a boiled down coffee or tea work? Know it's not traditional but I'm strapped right now lol.
i.keenum wrote: Would a boiled down coffee or tea work? Know it's not traditional but I'm strapped right now lol.
I've never tried that, but I don't think I'd recommend it. You could try it and see what happens.
The thing is you're talking about water based, and that can negate all of your fine sanding by raising the grain. Alcohol based stain has less tendency to do that.
Here you can see the funny colored grain I was talking about and get a better idea of what I'm working with. Got it all sanded down back to 100 grit so that was a lesson learned so think I should take a trip to the local leather shop this weekend or leave it as is?
I would re-stain it black, wipe off the excess with DNA, sand with 400 grit evenly, and apply a water base top color.
I don't know if a cooked down coffee or tea would be appropriate. It might be ok, I've never tested it.
If I'm not mistaken... pre-raising the grain, In other types of wood working, eliminates further raising of grain. If you were to pre raise the grain with water, let it dry, sand back (400 grit), then apply the water base stain, the grain should not raise again. Finish the sanding schedule and buff.
I don't know if it's my computer or what, but I'm not seeing anything really unusual in the color in these last photos. Briar, having been once a living thing, will tend to have natural variations that will produce inconsistent color like that.
Anyhow, as to staining, the coffee or tea probably won't really stick without a mordant--a catalyst (maybe not the right technical term?) that makes the color stick to the surface you're trying to color. You can look up appropriate mordants online, I'm sure.
I kind of liked it better with the plateaux on, myself.
I sold her as is and some body didn't mind the grain, so can't change the finish now . Any thing I should have changed shaping / stem wise?? Right now I only have fiebings black and I have not enjoyed it. What would you guys say is your most commonly used fiebings colors?
i.keenum wrote:I sold her as is and some body didn't mind the grain, so can't change the finish now . Any thing I should have changed shaping / stem wise?? Right now I only have fiebings black and I have not enjoyed it. What would you guys say is your most commonly used fiebings colors?
I like chocolate as a base, sometimes for the final as well.
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)to hide the funky but instead of hiding it it just accentuated it. So at this point do you think I should just sand the dye off and accept it as is, or do some kind of rustification? I could possibly send it off to be sand blasted , I've seen where a few that offer that service?
. Any thing I should have changed shaping / stem wise?? Right now I only have fiebings black and I have not enjoyed it. What would you guys say is your most commonly used fiebings colors?
