visiting a pipemakers shop...how to approach?

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I recently found a carver on Pipedia (Thanks to S.E. Thile) that lives just 70 miles north of me. I email him to see if he would entertain a visit to his workshop this Saturday. His response was direct:
"I don't mean to be rude, but I have always been reluctant to have visitors in my shop. I am always busy making pipes. You can view just about everything I make in my eBay listings.
I appreciate his response as it saved me time and gas money and I completely understand this carvers view. The visitor, or requesting visitor, must remember that the carver has certain production goals. Also, ones workshop becomes a sactum. How does this guy know I'm not a wacko that will geek out and overstay the welcome. In the end, it is the collector and upcoming pipe maker that benefits more than the carver; so should you get the chance to meet a carver enjoy the memory and count the blessing.
This one hurt a little as this carver was at the top of my short list but maybe we will meet at Chicago one day.
Rad, Todd, Jeff, is this an accurate view for the hobbiest to have?
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bikedoctor wrote:I recently found a carver on Pipedia (Thanks to S.E. Thile) that lives just 70 miles north of me. I email him to see if he would entertain a visit to his workshop this Saturday. His response was direct:
"I don't mean to be rude, but I have always been reluctant to have visitors in my shop. I am always busy making pipes. You can view just about everything I make in my eBay listings.
I appreciate his response as it saved me time and gas money and I completely understand this carvers view. The visitor, or requesting visitor, must remember that the carver has certain production goals. Also, ones workshop becomes a sactum. How does this guy know I'm not a wacko that will geek out and overstay the welcome. In the end, it is the collector and upcoming pipe maker that benefits more than the carver; so should you get the chance to meet a carver enjoy the memory and count the blessing.
This one hurt a little as this carver was at the top of my short list but maybe we will meet at Chicago one day.
Rad, Todd, Jeff, is this an accurate view for the hobbiest to have?
No.

I've had several customers/potential customers request visits, and I've always welcomed them. I'm always making pipes, and they are welcome to come and watch and ask questions.

So far no one has ever overstayed their welcome.

Except for Skip Elliott. He stayed for like 3 hours and then took me to dinner. What a pain. :twisted:

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RadDavis wrote:
bikedoctor wrote:I recently found a carver on Pipedia (Thanks to S.E. Thile) that lives just 70 miles north of me. I email him to see if he would entertain a visit to his workshop this Saturday. His response was direct:
"I don't mean to be rude, but I have always been reluctant to have visitors in my shop. I am always busy making pipes. You can view just about everything I make in my eBay listings.
I appreciate his response as it saved me time and gas money and I completely understand this carvers view. The visitor, or requesting visitor, must remember that the carver has certain production goals. Also, ones workshop becomes a sactum. How does this guy know I'm not a wacko that will geek out and overstay the welcome. In the end, it is the collector and upcoming pipe maker that benefits more than the carver; so should you get the chance to meet a carver enjoy the memory and count the blessing.
This one hurt a little as this carver was at the top of my short list but maybe we will meet at Chicago one day.
Rad, Todd, Jeff, is this an accurate view for the hobbiest to have?
No.

I've had several customers/potential customers request visits, and I've always welcomed them. I'm always making pipes, and they are welcome to come and watch and ask questions.

So far no one has ever overstayed their welcome.

Except for Skip Elliott. He stayed for like 3 hours and then took me to dinner. What a pain. :twisted:

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RadDavis wrote:Except for Skip Elliott. He stayed for like 3 hours and then took me to dinner. What a pain.
I think the time I really overstayed my welcome was the time I visited Todd Johnson.
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Skip wrote:
RadDavis wrote:Except for Skip Elliott. He stayed for like 3 hours and then took me to dinner. What a pain.
I think the time I really overstayed my welcome was the time I visited Todd Johnson.

He's still there.
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Skip wrote:
RadDavis wrote:Except for Skip Elliott. He stayed for like 3 hours and then took me to dinner. What a pain.
I think the time I really overstayed my welcome was the time I visited Todd Johnson.
I used to hang out at the Briary for hours on end buying nothing and fondling every pipe in the store. You must be confused. You never overstayed your welcome, but then again you never took me to dinner either. :D By the way, I went and visited that little stone pipe cave last summer. Man did that bring back some memories!

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bikedoctor wrote:I recently found a carver on Pipedia (Thanks to S.E. Thile) that lives just 70 miles north of me. I email him to see if he would entertain a visit to his workshop this Saturday. His response was direct:
"I don't mean to be rude, but I have always been reluctant to have visitors in my shop. I am always busy making pipes. You can view just about everything I make in my eBay listings.
I appreciate his response as it saved me time and gas money and I completely understand this carvers view. The visitor, or requesting visitor, must remember that the carver has certain production goals. Also, ones workshop becomes a sactum. How does this guy know I'm not a wacko that will geek out and overstay the welcome. In the end, it is the collector and upcoming pipe maker that benefits more than the carver; so should you get the chance to meet a carver enjoy the memory and count the blessing.
This one hurt a little as this carver was at the top of my short list but maybe we will meet at Chicago one day.
Rad, Todd, Jeff, is this an accurate view for the hobbiest to have?
There's a top tier pipe carver 70 miles north of Shreveport, LA who sells his pipe on eBay? This one's as tough as the crossword in the Sunday Times. I'm stumped.

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Well ... .... :)

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Anyone is welcome in my shop - but I usually prepare them by telling them that it's a dirty little hole in the ground so they don't expect some kind of grand, idyllic workshop. I usually clean off a stool for them. :)
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As long as they bring good beer, I'm happy to show off my hobbiest shop!
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Todd wrote:There's a top tier pipe carver 70 miles north of Shreveport, LA who sells his pipe on eBay? This one's as tough as the crossword in the Sunday Times. I'm stumped.

Thank you Todd.

Edit: A Pipedia recognized carver.

I remember as a budding bicycle mechanic (Yes gents. Bicycles have mechanics) I enjoyed having customers come by and watch me wrench. Once an older gent (This guy was old Rad. Something like 41 or 42 :) ) brought in a beautiful classic steel Janni Mota. One moment we were just chit chatting and then he began to tell me about why his machine had been so neglected. For the past 18 months he had walked his wife to the grave with cancer and now a year after her death he was just begining to live again. I felt unworthy to be there but the guy needed a release and I was fortunate to be there with him. Win for the craftsman.

I also remember as an aspiring mechanic how I would appreciate the efficiency of my mechanic and how it was worth paying him $20.00 for 15 minutes of work to save me 1 1/2hours + the same $ 20.00 for him to fix what I broke. Win for the craftsman again.

But to each his own.

Rad, you wanna go to Sonic??
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TimGeorge wrote:Well ... 70 miles north would be Texarkana, and a google for Texarkana handmade pipes just brings up one guy, who does have some listings on ebay .... :)
I should have left out the distance as I have no ax to grind.

I'm sorry now I posted it. Forgive me.
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bikedoctor wrote:
TimGeorge wrote:Well ... 70 miles north would be Texarkana, and a google for Texarkana handmade pipes just brings up one guy, who does have some listings on ebay .... :)
I should have left out the distance as I have no ax to grind.

I'm sorry now I posted it. Forgive me.
Whoa there, I wasn't casting aspersions on anyone. I really just don't know anybody that lives 70 miles north of Shreveport and makes pipes, that's all. For all I know it could have been Mike Butera. I'm sure David makes some really fine pipes. I just didn't know he lived north of Shreveport. Now I do.

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I edited the above post to delete info regarding the pipemaker in question. Should have thought that one through first.

On the plus side, I am planning to bid on one of his pipes .... Looks like they are usually a good deal.
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No.

I've had several customers/potential customers request visits, and I've always welcomed them. I'm always making pipes, and they are welcome to come and watch and ask questions.

So far no one has ever overstayed their welcome.

Except for Skip Elliott. He stayed for like 3 hours and then took me to dinner. What a pain. :twisted:

Rad[/quote]


I have visited Rad for my first look into pipe crafting and can state he was very informative and a wonderful host! Really amazing to see how effortlessly he created a first rate pipe. You can tell he must have spent countless hours at the lathe and sanding wheel to master his craft. Great pipes!

Thanks again Rad!
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Hell I wish someone would visit me!!! I'm so lonely............. :lol: Actually anyone one in Connecticut or anywhere else wants to come hang out some Saturday I am all for it. Usually have a nice fire in the fire pit outside on good nights. I have thought about asking to visit Kurts but I never seem to get the time to go anywhere. My "honeydo list" is getting quite long.
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And it isn't going to get any shorter with Spring here either!
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Anyone near Cleveland,OH. I'm bored as hell and can't find a job. I need to get out of the house.
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buster wrote:I'm bored as hell and can't find a job. I need to get out of the house.
man, do i understand that statement!!
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EBK wrote:

I have visited Rad for my first look into pipe crafting and can state he was very informative and a wonderful host! Really amazing to see how effortlessly he created a first rate pipe. You can tell he must have spent countless hours at the lathe and sanding wheel to master his craft. Great pipes!

Thanks again Rad!
Hey Eric! Great to see you here! :D
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