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lancefisher51 wrote:An why would I waste my time screwing with you guys? Man take a brake back up. Its a informational forum. Ease off. I'm a simple hobbyist.

Lance

Take the comment for what it is. You're new and while comments are a huge part of what this forum is about, credibility plays a part in comments. It's hard for someone who has put a lot of work into something (and has more experience than the commentator) to hear criticism. You're going to take some flak for the pipe you posted. It was bad. Posting comments on the work of others after posting that pipe is going to get hackles up.

andrew

Harry, I have nothing to add to the above comments. Good work.

andrew

scotties22 wrote:

lancefisher51 wrote:I think the stem is bent too much and the thickness of the backside of bowl is a little much. But still a very nice piece! Well done.

Lance

Okay, now I feel like you are screwing with us. One minute you don't know how to put a stem on a pipe. And now you think this one is over bent and there is too much meat on the back of the bowl???? I'm not trying to castigate you, but come on.....really????

I totally agree with scottie, Lance. You said you know very little about pipes, but are now critiquing others work, after a weak of finding out what briar is, so don't be so defensive when someone calls you out.

Regardless, I like the pipe, Harry. the bend in the stem, and its thickness for that matter, remind me of very classic, early English pipes. nice work!! I will ask, however, did you use a sealer this time when staining the plateau? The grain still looks a little darker at the top of the bowl.

Evan

scotties22 wrote:

lancefisher51 wrote:I think the stem is bent too much and the thickness of the backside of bowl is a little much. But still a very nice piece! Well done.

Lance

Okay, now I feel like you are screwing with us. One minute you don't know how to put a stem on a pipe. And now you think this one is over bent and there is too much meat on the back of the bowl???? I'm not trying to castigate you, but come on.....really????

BC, love the pipe, btw.

Ok Scottie. I dont know why your questioning everything i post on this forum. This is a forum for critique correct? So how come when I state how i think a pipe looks you get all upset? Im no pro at this. Its a fun hobby an I enjoy it. I question a lot an try to learn as much as possable.

Lance

First, BC I am ssooooooo sorry that your thread is getting a bit high jacked.


Okay, here's the deal (and it has taken a day for this to rear it's head?)......you are new here and as such are granted a bit of latitude with the questions you ask. We are all here to learn and we do support each other in that pursuit. That being said, it is very very hard to have you ask the questions you have asked and then turn right around and critique the work of an established maker.

This is not just "art" as you call it. There are parameters that we try to follow to keep things in proportion and keep pipes flowing properly. These things take time and experience to figure out. And until you do figure them out, at least partially, you look a bit foolish critiquing another's work. Had your post been something along the line of "That's a great looking pipe" I wouldn't be typing this reply now. But, you replied specifically that the stem was over bent and there was too much left on the back of the bowl. My question to you was how do you know either of these things if you don't even know how to put a fucking stem in. I wasn't picking on you. I wasn't trying to raise your hackles, just trying to figure out where you are coming from. Because on one hand you have no knowledge of pipes at all, but on the other hand you are giving very specific criticisms on something you know nothing about by your own admission. Thus my original question.......are you screwing with us?

And when, other than in this thread, have I challenged anything you have said??

lancefisher51 wrote:

scotties22 wrote:

lancefisher51 wrote:I think the stem is bent too much and the thickness of the backside of bowl is a little much. But still a very nice piece! Well done.

Lance

Okay, now I feel like you are screwing with us. One minute you don't know how to put a stem on a pipe. And now you think this one is over bent and there is too much meat on the back of the bowl???? I'm not trying to castigate you, but come on.....really????

BC, love the pipe, btw.

Ok Scottie. I dont know why your questioning everything i post on this forum. This is a forum for critique correct? So how come when I state how i think a pipe looks you get all upset? Im no pro at this. Its a fun hobby an I enjoy it. I question a lot an try to learn as much as possable.

Lance

Scottie questioned you because you lack the knowledge with which to offer feedback.

This is a forum of professional artisans and students of a craft. This forum is a school. You shouldn't offer financial advice if you've just learned what money is, just like you shouldn't offer critique in this setting when you've just learned that pipes have stems.

My recommendation here is to take the road of humility. Watch and learn from others until you can make something that is remotely comparable.

All that said, participation is encouraged and welcome. So far your participation has been pleasant. I encourage you to realize that you are amongst very knowledgeable and experienced individuals who dedicate their lives to the pursuit of excellence in pipe making. Keep learning and keep posting, but acknowledge that you have stepped into a community that you, as of yet, know nothing about.

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Ok. I do now realize whay you are all saying. Yes I was wrong for critique I have no right to do that. That was not my intent. I was trying to say something along the lines of my preference would be..... with that said yoj are all right. I have no right criticizing or anythong considering the work I have done on this subject.

Lance

I do however appreciate all the explanations. As I have said in past. Im a veteran with alot of mental health Issues so sometimes explaining myself or expressing what I t ruely want to say is more difficult than thought. Thank you all for the acceptance an guidance an I hope I can learn from thos an continue in my journey of pipe making with all the knowledge you all have.

Lance

Hey we're pipe makers. We have mental health issues too.

Sasquatch wrote:Hey we're pipe makers. We have mental health issues too.

I think it's prerequisite.

Sasquatch wrote:Hey we're pipe makers. We have mental health issues too.

*sigh* well, someone had to say it

andrew

Not qualified to critique your work but I find the pipe beautiful with a shape and color I find exceptionally pleasing. Thanks for showing it.

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I see what the guys mean about the stem being a little too bent. I agree, but it's only a hair off. It should make a perfectly symmetrical S-curve with the bottom of the shank/bowl.

I am NOT saying I could do it better, by the way. You're a good way ahead of me.

wisemanpipes wrote:
I will ask, however, did you use a sealer this time when staining the plateau? The grain still looks a little darker at the top of the bowl.

Evan

Thanks to Everyone for the input!

Evan sorry I missed this question, yes I sealed the top of the plateau with shellac before staining, thanks to the advice of some good folks here!

It's maybe not what people are looking for or expecting. But in 1970, briar boogers excepted, that would have been probably the first Danish freehand pipe sold out of a 50-pipe shipment. For what it is, and to the old-timey eyes that see pipes like that as "right," you nailed it.

Thank you Mr.Yak!