$$ ASP club pipe 2005

bscofield · Post by **bscofield** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:51 am

I like the idea you posted random. Several pipe makers making the same shape. Seems like that would be the best way to get as many ASP'ers the club pipe they want.

Chadd · Post by **Chadd** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:18 am

Random, thanks for posting this. Ben, I'd be interested in joining the team. I'd love the chance to get my work seen by these guys.

Sounds like either a billard or a freehand at this point, huh?

Chadd

sagiter · Post by **sagiter** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:17 pm

Based on the responses so far, there are very few of these guys that you want as future customers. As someone whio makes some fairly high priced items, I can almost guarantee that there is no market for an artisan pipe amongst people who when queried pony up $50 - $100 thinking that a pipemaker can do this and profit to boot. This of course is only my opinion and YMMV. The best you can hope with 90% of the respondents so far is "gee I own 10 Stanwells and Savinellis, 4 cobs and 6 grabows and this guys ASP pipe for $100 kicks the shit out of all of them" Unless of course you want to make pipes for $100 the rest of your life.

Neil

jeff · Post by **jeff** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:44 pm

Geez, stop yelling.

bscofield · Post by **bscofield** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:32 pm

jeff wrote:Geez, stop yelling.

Post by **KurtHuhn** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:23 pm

random wrote:On the other hand, Kurt Huhn has said he can make 5 or 6 pipes a day, goes right from the disk sander to the buffer.

Well, at that point, it's usually from disk sander to rustication tool - and those are the ones that go for $85 retail. If it's hitting the buffer at all, it's a smooth finish, and it's probably going to retail for closer to $200 at a minimum - and going up quickly from there.

bscofield · Post by **bscofield** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:09 am

Kurt, you really go from sanding disc to buffer? How do you manage that!?

Nick · Post by **Nick** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:46 am

It depends on the grit of the disk I suppose. I've been thinking about putting some velcro on the disk, and making a few plates to put on it. Some hard backing for 100 - 220, somthing with a bit of give for 320 - 400 and a soft foam backing for 600 - 2000. Haven't done it yet, but I'm thinking about it. Being able to use the disk all the way up the line sounds pretty cool. Clearly some hand sanding would still have to be done.

bscofield · Post by **bscofield** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:05 pm

sagiter wrote:Based on the responses so far, there are very few of these guys that you want as future customers. As someone whio makes some fairly high priced items, I can almost guarantee that there is no market for an artisan pipe amongst people who when queried pony up $50 - $100 thinking that a pipemaker can do this and profit to boot. This of course is only my opinion and YMMV. The best you can hope with 90% of the respondents so far is "gee I own 10 Stanwells and Savinellis, 4 cobs and 6 grabows and this guys ASP pipe for $100 kicks the shit out of all of them" Unless of course you want to make pipes for $100 the rest of your life.

Neil

I pretty much agree with what your saying... except that I don't really care if they are repeat customers in the future, know what I mean? I care for repeat customers but if my work merits a higher price they are unwilling to pay than that's just what it is. Right now my lower price permits me to get good pipes into peoples hands while I work at getting better and filling up my workshop. That's how I see it...

but I don't know if I'm in on this thing on ASP tho cause i think Bastian is emailing folks and I don't think I made the list...

Post by **KurtHuhn** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 12:01 pm

bscofield wrote:Kurt, you really go from sanding disc to buffer? How do you manage that!?

You need a very soft and flexible disk holder, as well as sanding disks that wrap around the holder. Check out The Wave System sanding disks at any wood crafting or turning store, and you'll need a vry thick and soft backing pad for the disk holder.

Now, I'd be lying if I said I go direct from sanding wheel to buffer - it doesn't happen like that. Some amount of hand sanding is necessary - especially on the stems. BUT, I can greatly cut down on the amount of hand sanding needed, and cut the time investment considerably, all while getting an incredible finish.